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Author:  jazestix [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  simple question, in search of AWESOME answer
number closed HB-Lawyer on saturday. Solid textbook pick-up. attraction was high enough that i'm certain was not a blatant flake.
told her i would text her when i got to the car, so she would have my number.


Texted her today:

Me: the craziest thing happened after i left the other night. u don't have a twin do u?

Her: no i don't and sorry u are?

how would u respond? i'm angling for Cocky/Funny...but all ideas are welcome

sidenote about the story, in case anybody gives a damn: she may or may not be bluffing that she doesnt remember me. like i said, i felt i made a pretty lasting impression while in set (not a long set, but very solid throughout). and plus, i texted her the night of once i got to my car. so i would think the old text would be saved as some sort of conversation on her phone, even if she didnt save me in it.

stix
Author:  V3nu [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:56 pm ]
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dude .... this is really normal... when I'm msging a girl for the first time I always write my name at the end, just say who you are and she will light up!
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:18 pm ]
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Tell her who the fuck it is you shmuck
Author:  jazestix [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:57 pm ]
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Tell her who the fuck it is you shmuck
aren't u quite the charmer?

listen, sweetie, ur message offers nothing original, nor creative. if u would use ur thinking cap that they taught u in school how to use, u would have known that that was the context in which i wanted to reply. so next time, put some thought into ur answer instead of trying to rack up ur post count, unless keyboard jockey artist is what ur aiming for.

and not for nothing, but it's not so much that i care about the time u wasted to write stupid shit. it's just that i don't like wasting my time reading stupid shit.

sincerely,
stix

PS: my response was:

"aww that is so cute. ur forgetful just like my bratty lil niece. i wanna adopt u as my new little sister, and we can go on adventures and climb trees together." (thanks TD!)

it was a shit test, as i suspected. and my response worked like a charm
Author:  sananman [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:52 pm ]
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^^^^^ Holy crap I hope you've a bit more imagination than just lashing out gambits all the time. I bet your text exchange went nowhere.

Better luck next time
Author:  jazestix [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:00 pm ]
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^^^^^ Holy crap I hope you've a bit more imagination than just lashing out gambits all the time. I bet your text exchange went nowhere.

Better luck next time
i'll keep u posted, sweetie
Author:  Nyseto [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:12 pm ]
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That was WAY over done. It was good enough up to "niece." then a smiley. Look at the way girls make shit tests. They don't over do it that much. All that climbing tree stuff looked like you were trying to hard. I know you want to make it funny, but it has to be kept short.

"Aw that's cute, you're forgetful, how can I ever count on you if I ever get in trouble?
Author:  jazestix [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:17 pm ]
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here's the problem with forums like this sometimes. everybody here goes out, reads The Game, and all of a sudden thinks that they are Mystery. give me a break. u want theories. i'll give u one.

it's called Stix's Playground Theory.

everyone of u are probably the same kid u were on the elementary schoolyard playground. sure, u may have grown some facial hair and ur voice is deeper, but inside, ur the same kid. a small few have been able to actually change. but even if they did, they only changed into another type of kid on the playground.

the little kiss ass that followed the popular kids and laughed at their stupid jokes.
the sarcastic little shit who only made smartass comments to take away from his own inabilities
the curious kid that was always asking questions


i always read threads with the new kid that is looking for guidance. fact is we all are (should be if we want to improve). then there's the kids that think they know everything, but lack the communication skills, or have too much (most often, undeserving) cockiness to actually teach anything to anybody without trying to sound like some sort of hot shit. dude...we don't know each other. i could care less about u. if i ask a question, try and be like the next character i describe. the genuinely helpful and humble kid. the type that knows that not everybody is on the same level, but realizes that he has been helped on his way up, and would like to pay it forward by sharing his knowledge. stop the ego driven snarky remarks. it doesn't help anyone.

some ppl need to go to a motorcycle forum site to actually see how ppl help each other and share knowledge. i just dont get all the snide remarks, and shit talking. unless it's ur goal to go out and compete with other artists...then what is the point. i don't mind criticism, but jeesus, why not be constructive since u've already taken the time to write something anyway.

rant over.

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^^^^^ Holy crap I hope you've a bit more imagination than just lashing out gambits all the time. I bet your text exchange went nowhere.

Better luck next time

give me a break...if it's field tested by the masters, who are u to say it's crap. let's here urs?
Author:  jazestix [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:23 pm ]
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That was WAY over done. It was good enough up to "niece." then a smiley. Look at the way girls make shit tests. They don't over do it that much. All that climbing tree stuff looked like you were trying to hard. I know you want to make it funny, but it has to be kept short.

"Aw that's cute, you're forgetful, how can I ever count on you if I ever get in trouble?
ur right about keeping short...i like urs. mine still got the response i was looking for. which really was to get her to respond and set a playful tone between us. btw, she responded that it "sounds good. it's something unique to do." over the top? maybe... but i just needed the opportunity to keep this game going.
Author:  V3nu [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:38 pm ]
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What's with all the hate on Jazestix? o.O that was ... just ... lame ...

Thumbs up on the second message!

What did she say after that text?

Btw, a tip so she remembers who you are right away, use call back humor, I'm pretty sure you know what that is...

Cheers!
Author:  jazestix [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:28 am ]
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What's with all the hate on Jazestix? o.O that was ... just ... lame ...

Thumbs up on the second message!

What did she say after that text?

Btw, a tip so she remembers who you are right away, use call back humor, I'm pretty sure you know what that is...

Cheers!
well the conversation went as such:

Me: craziest thing happened to me. u don't have a twin, do u?
HB: no i dont and sorry you are?
Me: aww that's so cute. Ur forgetful like my bratty little niece. i wanna adopt u as my new little sister and we can go on adventures and climb trees together! Stix
HB: Lol sounds good something unique to do
Me: and if u have to cross the street, i'll hold ur hand. but don't get any ideas. that's all u get. Lol. Soo..how have you been, brat :)
HB: Good on my way to class
Me: Okay. Stay focused. I'll quiz you when ur done
HB: Lol ok but i suck at quiz

then i stopped texting. gonna call tomorrow and get the phone game going. yea plan on using callback humor. not completely comfortable with phone gaming yet, but...gotta start somewhere.
Author:  V3nu [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:48 am ]
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What's with all the hate on Jazestix? o.O that was ... just ... lame ...

Thumbs up on the second message!

What did she say after that text?

Btw, a tip so she remembers who you are right away, use call back humor, I'm pretty sure you know what that is...

Cheers!
well the conversation went as such:

Me: craziest thing happened to me. u don't have a twin, do u?
HB: no i dont and sorry you are?
Me: aww that's so cute. Ur forgetful like my bratty little niece. i wanna adopt u as my new little sister and we can go on adventures and climb trees together! Stix
HB: Lol sounds good something unique to do
Me: and if u have to cross the street, i'll hold ur hand. but don't get any ideas. that's all u get. Lol. Soo..how have you been, brat :)
HB: Good on my way to class
Me: Okay. Stay focused. I'll quiz you when ur done
HB: Lol ok but i suck at quiz

then i stopped texting. gonna call tomorrow and get the phone game going. yea plan on using callback humor. not completely comfortable with phone gaming yet, but...gotta start somewhere.
Thumbs Up!

Continue with the good work! =D
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:06 pm ]
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First off, my throwaway comment initially was trying to make the point that you don't need to overthink and hypercalibrate every interaction, especially something as unimportant as sending a text message. The point of a phone number is to GET A DAY 2, nothing more. You seem to be trying to run game via text, but you cannot kino, build comfort or especially FUCK over the phone, so why bother?

The whole adopt you as my little sister, etc. stuff is called a false disqualifier. The point of it is to fly under the radar when you are in set with a girl who might believe that you are trying to hit on her by maintaining an initially non-sexual frame, which you then break later when you have rapport with her by sexually escalating. If you've already got her number then this is pointless because you've clearly expressed interest in her as a possible sexual partner. If you continue down that line you will only get LJBFed because she will assume you're a funny, quirky friend.

Similarly, the hold hands thing is (1) gay and (2) "that's all you get" is a very specific tool that's part of playing push-pull, where you kino escalate and then break contact, saying "that's all you get," which makes her want to re-engage and enables you to escalate more effectively when you do. It is a completely pointless thing to say in the context of a text message.

I would advise you to move as quickly as possible to arranging a day two with this girl because you're not really making any actual progress at the moment.

I would also advise you to try to be less reactive to what people say, even if you feel they're criticising or making fun of you. Being reactive is deeply unattractive to women and nobody likes being around the guy who constantly takes everything as a sleight against him and fights with people about petty shit.
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What's with all the hate on Jazestix? o.O that was ... just ... lame ...

Thumbs up on the second message!

What did she say after that text?

Btw, a tip so she remembers who you are right away, use call back humor, I'm pretty sure you know what that is...

Cheers!
well the conversation went as such:

Me: craziest thing happened to me. u don't have a twin, do u?
HB: no i dont and sorry you are?
Me: aww that's so cute. Ur forgetful like my bratty little niece. i wanna adopt u as my new little sister and we can go on adventures and climb trees together! Stix
HB: Lol sounds good something unique to do
Me: and if u have to cross the street, i'll hold ur hand. but don't get any ideas. that's all u get. Lol. Soo..how have you been, brat :)
HB: Good on my way to class
Me: Okay. Stay focused. I'll quiz you when ur done
HB: Lol ok but i suck at quiz

then i stopped texting. gonna call tomorrow and get the phone game going. yea plan on using callback humor. not completely comfortable with phone gaming yet, but...gotta start somewhere.
Author:  jazestix [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:11 pm ]
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First off, my throwaway comment initially was trying to make the point that you don't need to overthink and hypercalibrate every interaction, especially something as unimportant as sending a text message. The point of a phone number is to GET A DAY 2, nothing more. You seem to be trying to run game via text, but you cannot kino, build comfort or especially FUCK over the phone, so why bother?

The whole adopt you as my little sister, etc. stuff is called a false disqualifier. The point of it is to fly under the radar when you are in set with a girl who might believe that you are trying to hit on her by maintaining an initially non-sexual frame, which you then break later when you have rapport with her by sexually escalating. If you've already got her number then this is pointless because you've clearly expressed interest in her as a possible sexual partner. If you continue down that line you will only get LJBFed because she will assume you're a funny, quirky friend.

Similarly, the hold hands thing is (1) gay and (2) "that's all you get" is a very specific tool that's part of playing push-pull, where you kino escalate and then break contact, saying "that's all you get," which makes her want to re-engage and enables you to escalate more effectively when you do. It is a completely pointless thing to say in the context of a text message.

I would advise you to move as quickly as possible to arranging a day two with this girl because you're not really making any actual progress at the moment.

I would also advise you to try to be less reactive to what people say, even if you feel they're criticising or making fun of you. Being reactive is deeply unattractive to women and nobody likes being around the guy who constantly takes everything as a sleight against him and fights with people about petty shit.
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What's with all the hate on Jazestix? o.O that was ... just ... lame ...

Thumbs up on the second message!

What did she say after that text?

Btw, a tip so she remembers who you are right away, use call back humor, I'm pretty sure you know what that is...

Cheers!
well the conversation went as such:

Me: craziest thing happened to me. u don't have a twin, do u?
HB: no i dont and sorry you are?
Me: aww that's so cute. Ur forgetful like my bratty little niece. i wanna adopt u as my new little sister and we can go on adventures and climb trees together! Stix
HB: Lol sounds good something unique to do
Me: and if u have to cross the street, i'll hold ur hand. but don't get any ideas. that's all u get. Lol. Soo..how have you been, brat :)
HB: Good on my way to class
Me: Okay. Stay focused. I'll quiz you when ur done
HB: Lol ok but i suck at quiz

then i stopped texting. gonna call tomorrow and get the phone game going. yea plan on using callback humor. not completely comfortable with phone gaming yet, but...gotta start somewhere.
now THAT'S the kind of advice i'm looking for in a forum like this. appreciate the LJBF ... quirky funny friend advice about the dangers of texting. that makes total sense and i've never looked at it that way before. in person, i feel my game is decent with approach, kino escalation - so most of attraction and a bit in comfort in MM terms. i keep energy high and push/pull to keep sexual tension there. it's the phone/text game that i'm looking for help on. and being 6 years out of the game due to a LTR, i've also noticed myself struggling to escalate into sexual on day 2s. but that's why i play the game, and that's why i seek advice from others.

and in case ur wondering, it's not that i'm completely bad with women. my top score is decent enough for me. but i know my lays have all been done without consciousness to what i'm actually doing to create attraction. that's why i'm studying pick-up. i want to learn why at times in my life, i have been successful, and at other times i have not. i want to be CONSCIOUS about what i am doing. that is what seperates us from not only AFCs, but NATURALS as well, i think. it's been really fun and i am and have always been fascinated with human interaction and social dynamics. i read about different methods, visualize pick-up, and commit time in the field 3 days a week.

so maybe i got reactive to comments, but it's only because of what i've noticed from some ppl on the forums here. not just with mine. just straight up haterism, and cockiness. ur throw away comment would have been a lot more helpful if u replaced "shmuck" with something useful such as in ur last comment. or just left it out completely. because at the end of the day, either of these other 2 option would have served a better purpose and wasted neither of our times. i can spend a whole post about how good, or how horrible i am with women....but the fact that nobody really knows me, or anybody else on here (with the exception of wings) confuses me as to why there are so many egos. just cut the crap and answer or don't answer a question with good will and good intention.

in the field i would not be as reactive, as i know it's not an attractive trait. but in this forum, i'm not trying to pick any of u guys up either...so i'll say what's on my mind. love me or hate me, i'm still looking for good advice, just like all of us on here are.
Author:  jazestix [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:18 am ]
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You seem to be trying to run game via text, but you cannot kino, build comfort or especially FUCK over the phone, so why bother?

The whole adopt you as my little sister, etc. stuff is called a false disqualifier. The point of it is to fly under the radar when you are in set with a girl who might believe that you are trying to hit on her by maintaining an initially non-sexual frame, which you then break later when you have rapport with her by sexually escalating. If you've already got her number then this is pointless because you've clearly expressed interest in her as a possible sexual partner. If you continue down that line you will only get LJBFed because she will assume you're a funny, quirky friend.

Similarly, the hold hands thing is (1) gay and (2) "that's all you get" is a very specific tool that's part of playing push-pull, where you kino escalate and then break contact, saying "that's all you get," which makes her want to re-engage and enables you to escalate more effectively when you do. It is a completely pointless thing to say in the context of a text message.

I would advise you to move as quickly as possible to arranging a day two with this girl because you're not really making any actual progress at the moment.
re-read...perfect...hit me just right. thx

stix
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