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| Author: | Ghostface [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Need Advice to Improve |
Recently I went to my old high school's football game (I graduated last year), and I seen a girl who I knew from school when I was there. Anyway, long story short, she shown some IOI's. For example, one thing I noticed is when I was standing with my buddy, she moved closer and closer to me, and talked louder. I don't remember where I heard, but I immediately recalled that being a sign that she wants your attention and wants to talk to you. Anyway, I turned to her and said hey, and she hugged me and seemed pretty happy to see me. I talked to her for a bit about what sort of protein bars she used, and some health powder she had (I was starting a diet) then I simply said "Oh I see ____, I'm gonna go say hi" and went to talk to them. About an hour later, I was talking to another buddy of mine, when she came back doing the same thing as before with another girlfriend of her's. Once again I turned to her and started talking, and found immediately her friend was interupting, and kind of killing the conversation (I don't know exactly what this means, some info on that would be nice too), so I immediately said "Hey, do you girls know ____? He's a good friend of mine and a really good guy.-" blah, blah. Basically using something I heard from Mystery about using your friends to disarm the friend. After introducing, everything was freed up. I was able to talk to this girl, and it seemed to be going great. Conversation was random, and jumped a lot, but she seemed to be having a lot of fun with it as she was laughing more than anyone around us. Eventually, I brought up, perhaps very dumb-like, this girl who was texting me with moodswings asking how this girl thinks I should respond to her (Careful to note I wasn't dating her) thinking that this comment could be a DHV. She seemed cool with it, and asked why I wasn't. I lead that into a conversation about how I consider personality and intelligence and not just looks. Well to cut time a little bit, I really facebook closed the girl. I didn't get her number, but it didn't seem to hurt it too bad (at the time) as she commented on the facebook immediately. Conversation on there was fun, and seemed to be cool for about maybe an hour. But it quickly died. I waited a day, and said hey to her on the chat thing on there and she didn't answer and after a few minutes went offline. Following that I took the hint, and nexted her. But I am curious, what did I do wrong? |
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| Author: | ImNaShitFool [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:02 am ] |
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your game leading up to this situation was perfect.. a couple adjustments could be made but you deff kept your cool and took control nicely... I think you need more Cocky/funny and more negs.. to build attraction.. she was prolly already attracted but build it anyway.. u said she was laughing alot so Im not sure how much you used, but thats an ioi in itself.. Info on ur q: the friend was in defense mode cuz she saw ur game was working, and perhaps jealous... typical girl shit.. you were right to disarm the friend.. but better game.. would be Giving the friend the attention at first.. then using her as a pawn to make the target work for your attention more. by talking alot to the friend and negging the target.. thats group theory, another mystery technique. im not sure what went wrong maybe u jumped on her FB too quckly, OR u not attempting to arrange some other get together? how did it die down? what was the momentum killer? is it possible that she just wasent on her facebook when u hit her up & ur overreacting? |
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| Author: | Ghostface [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:23 am ] |
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Firstly thanks for the reply bud, your advice is really appreciated! On topic, I know I go outside the m3 model a lot in my game, so it hurts some in that I can't explain exactly "where I am" in gaming her. So its hard to go further to perfect all of my game to the model. Now I definitely know my game can improve heavily with more cocky/funny, and negs, though I do use them. But probably my timing using them was/is off, as I said, due to not really following a model. That night, from memory alone, I'd say I was using "cocky/funny" as I am naturally cocky, but I don't recall using any negs at all (which may have helped develop to the cause for her not responding later). Reading your reply, I really agree your way would've worked better with disarming the friend. A.) it seems like she does some of the work for you, and B.) I may not have a friend to disarm her with. I'll need to really try and do that instead from here on out (along with trying cocky/funny and negging [or pushing away] more). To what happened, I will go to more detail. I know she was simply ignoring me as I tried again a day after I posted on here, and once more she ignored it. Then I found she started dating a friend of mine shortly after. So it was a definite next. lol. What killed the conversation was actually her bringing up her friend staying all week with her, and then I simply asked why breaking up to that point my more playful personality. She responded with fear of being alone, to which I jokingly said "too many scary movies. i have a 5 year old cousin with the same problem. lol" she responded with an lol, and it seemed at that point that all the playful mood set up was slowly falling down anyway. So I asked what her friend and her was doing for the weekend, it had a long pause then "idk." Finally when I asked if she and her friend wanted to go to the movies with me and some friends, she said "can't-" and gave an excuse out. Then immediately after said she had to go. Actually looking back on our conversation, I think it might be a lack of showing I was interested. I wasn't really being flirty at all, just playful and cocky/arrogant. Thanks for the advice though! I will try to use some more cocky/funny, and more negs / pushing away. As well as try out your idea for disarming the friend, that seems pretty smart. Thanks bro! |
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