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| Author: | robizeratul [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:21 pm ] |
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I was talking to my grandpa about sex(yes he was drunk)and he hated the way people are these days. He said something like this: "when i was a boy we had a horse and some sheep.Me and my 6 brothers had a pair of boots,each of us wore it on a different day.The "good boots" where there for only special ocasions,i remember when it was my birtsday,the only thing i wanted is to go into the classrom and let everybody see them,i've got so many compliments that day! After that it was the chocholate,it was the best thing in my life!I see you kids go to the supermarket,choose from 50 kinds of chocholate,and yet you can't enjoy a variety of flavours the way i enjoyed the simplest of chocholate. Your problem boy is that you whine to much,i didn't say anything when my father lucked me up in the cellar for loosing his one horse,or when i was in the army and i had to clean all the animal shit.And you know why?because that was life,i didn't ask questions,i just did my job and went home.That my friends is what a real man is! The reason people where happy those days,it's because things where simple,each of us knew our place.We didn't have so much freedom,but we didn't need it either.Look at you youngsters,you could do anything,but you choose to do nothing.If i had the chances that you have,i would take them! And never forget,a real man is defined by his actions,you have to be brave,but that doesen't mean not fearing things(even if they are only in you head)it's accepting the fear and doing it!" this turned out a long post,its a reconstruction of many things that he said.I see how this world isn't the one he once knew.girls ar getting "stronger" and men,i mean boys,are loosing ground.girls and stupid feminist cand understand that in the long run they need us,they can't raise 3 kids and work on they're own. But the most wise thing my grandpa said,that in this world good things happen all the time,and bad things happen only because you let them! |
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| Author: | AFC Royal [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:10 pm ] |
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This makes sense... But if you could tie it back to pickup more, I would appreciate it. |
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| Author: | 870 [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:34 pm ] |
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Making it easy for a girl to do what she wants to do anyways sounds like a quintessential act of feminism to me, not a revolt against it. Your boy, 870 |
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| Author: | Chief [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:12 am ] |
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http://chiefpua.blogspot.com/2010/02/wh ... thing.html Don't hate
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| Author: | Sharplin [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:43 am ] |
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I believe that you are saying the empowerment of women throughout the 20th century has led them to believe that they can be more independent and thus live without a male spouse, leading them to be harder to 'game'. I don't agree with that theory. I think maybe for some women that you see holding picket signs that read "Women are disrespected!" or "I'm a lesbian now because men are fucking assholes!", feminism has led them to be harder to get with. But for the most part the feminist movement has done more to grant women freedom and equality than sexual independence of men. The bottom line is that women still want sex. Feminism has done nothing to kill the female sex drive; it is instinct, women are born with it. That is what men must tap into. The only time you feminism might fuster your game that I can think of is some LMR from a Women's History major studying oppression of women and the contemporary wave of feminism (self-empowerment). Most girls don't preoccupy themselves with this nonsense though. |
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| Author: | biggus [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:15 am ] |
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I can agree with what Chief says to a greater extent, the movement towards equality of rights between men and women has been a good thing. But I find myself HIGHLY wary of the vestiges left over from this good cause and that is the creeping in of inequality and favouritism towards women and the hostility of some of these people towards anyone wanting real equality. Feminism today is a hotbed for un-warranted misandry, cloaked in political correctness and camped behind the fortress of law. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57EWApOypIQ is rather an interesting video to watch. |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:27 pm ] |
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Feminism is a fucking joke! This is a whole big area I have a lot to say about... 1. Women have never been forced to die in wars. 2. They are not capable of performing the same tasks men do, because they lack the ambition and devotion to do a good job at anything. This is why they get paid less. 3. Women have never ruled the world. Because they lack the physical strenght and itelligence to lead an army or a nation. 4. Remember when women weren't allowed to vote? It's because they lack the logic reasoning skills to take difficult decisions in a sound manner. 5. The only reason they need wimpy support groups (aka feminism) is because of their primal instinct of inferiority. 6. Women have never invented anything worth mentioning during the last thousand years of human history. The computer you're using, the electricity, the house you live in, the car you drive, the job you work for, the gasoline that fuels your car, the desk, the pencil, the paper and everything you use in your everyday life was invented and created by men. 7. Mathematics, philosophy, science, medicine, and all the important blocks of modern society were created by men. 8. Women provide us men with their physical beauty. Which is the only worthy talent they posses besides bearing children. If they can't do that, their worthless. This is why you shouldn't take women seriously and let them affect your mood in any way. Take pride in being a man and be unapologetic. Break out of the illusions women make you believe... |
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| Author: | 870 [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:52 pm ] |
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Quote: A bunch of misogynist nonsense.
If you truly believe all that shit (which you shouldn't), why do you want anything at all to do with women?Your boy, 870 |
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| Author: | Jav [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Feminism is a fucking joke! This is a whole big area I have a lot to say about...
First of, You are an idiot.1. Women have never been forced to die in wars. 2. They are not capable of performing the same tasks men do, because they lack the ambition and devotion to do a good job at anything. This is why they get paid less. 3. Women have never ruled the world. Because they lack the physical strenght and itelligence to lead an army or a nation. 4. Remember when women weren't allowed to vote? It's because they lack the logic reasoning skills to take difficult decisions in a sound manner. 5. The only reason they need wimpy support groups (aka feminism) is because of their primal instinct of inferiority. 6. Women have never invented anything worth mentioning during the last thousand years of human history. The computer you're using, the electricity, the house you live in, the car you drive, the job you work for, the gasoline that fuels your car, the desk, the pencil, the paper and everything you use in your everyday life was invented and created by men. 7. Mathematics, philosophy, science, medicine, and all the important blocks of modern society were created by men. 8. Women provide us men with their physical beauty. Which is the only worthy talent they posses besides bearing children. If they can't do that, their worthless. This is why you shouldn't take women seriously and let them affect your mood in any way. Take pride in being a man and be unapologetic. Break out of the illusions women make you believe... To make this post seem less like a flame (which it really isn't, don't ban me plz) I'll answer all your point and the obvious question why you are a moron. 1. If you had any intellect or proper education you would know that the feminist movement (really) started after WW2, after they were forced to take over the positions of their husbands in the factories. There are more clues why women never got send to war, both practical and biological. 2. Women are physically weaker than men, and you are an idiot. This has nothing to do with devotion or ambition, how are you going to explain women in high business positions? 3. What about Cleopatra? 4. Not even worth discussing. 5. How do you know that? Are you a woman? 6. Greatest female inventors: http://inventors.about.com/od/articlesa ... kers_3.htm 7. And they created those because they thought it was a nice way to get back at those pesky women constantly sitting at home and taking care of the household? 8. Males are idiots and only provide income, if they can't do that. They're worthless. How do you expect to even get a woman into bed if this is the way you really think about them? |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:26 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: A bunch of misogynist nonsense.
If you truly believe all that shit (which you shouldn't), why do you want anything at all to do with women?Your boy, 870 See, some of the gurus's methods return you to your powerful male core that is yours to have by birthright, while women try to take you away from it because they fear that power. Women try to impose guilt in men, for being a men, thus manipulating them to serve their ends just to win women's approval... You just need to brake out of the matrix, see things as they really are and take control by braking the patterns. Does this make sense? Everything I said is flat out true. I might seem like a women hater, but male-bashing and women dominance are just things I can't stand! Don't overestimate women... |
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| Author: | 870 [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:43 pm ] |
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Everything you said is true? Let's see ... 1.) I'm not sure why you think killing people on behalf of a government is a factor in whether a person is valuable, but regardless of that, you're still wrong. All Israeli citizens, including women, are forced to serve in the military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Def ... rces#Women 2.) Women get paid less because they traditionally take more time off from work for family functions while men are more apt to order a pizza and work late. Since a salary is basically an estimated value of an employees output to the company they work for, it should seem obvious that someone who works less (and thus, produces less) also earns less. Not that it matters since your point is a totally unqualified statement of opinion. 3.) See Jav's post for a great example of "strenght" and "itelligence." 4.) Yet another unqualified statement. 5.) Men and women use support systems equally whether you realize it or not. This is why prehistoric man organized himself into tribes and began specializing labor. 6.) Ever had an X-Ray? 7.) No single person is credited with the invention of any of the things you mentioned, and since even chimps practice a form of medicine (which is little more than the application of available resources to treat disease), it seems hard to believe that a woman couldn't have been the first human to try it. 8.) Beauty isn't a talent, it's a measure of physical attractiveness as judged by the subjective values of the individual examining it. Saying beauty is a talent is like saying pooping is a talent. Not that it matters anyway because your entire sense of reality is built around perceiving women as weaker and more pitiful than you (probably because at some point during your life a woman made you feel weak and pitiful) and thus you are unlikely to change your obviously flawed worldview. After all, admitting you are wrong would mean admitting we are all just people with varying degrees of talent and ability, and that there isn't nearly as much difference between the genders as those who profit from that belief would have you think. Your boy, 870 |
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| Author: | Chief [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:48 pm ] |
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I smell copypasta obvious troll is obvious |
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| Author: | AFC Royal [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:10 am ] |
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And just when I thought Fixer had come to the light side... rejecting MM... =D. Anyway, I think pretty much everyone covered it in the previous posts. As for wanting to get laid without the complications, that seems like you're preventing yourself from having great experiences, but, nonetheless, you should still try to erase your anti-feminist views, considering they hinder your pickup. Even from a purely utilitarian point of view, your ideas are still disadvantageous. |
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| Author: | Sharplin [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:11 am ] |
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Quote: Feminism is a fucking joke! This is a whole big area I have a lot to say about...
At first I thought this was a joke and at the end of your post you were gonna say "... JUST KIDDING! I don't live in the 1860's." But then you didn't.1. Women have never been forced to die in wars. 2. They are not capable of performing the same tasks men do, because they lack the ambition and devotion to do a good job at anything. This is why they get paid less. 3. Women have never ruled the world. Because they lack the physical strenght and itelligence to lead an army or a nation. 4. Remember when women weren't allowed to vote? It's because they lack the logic reasoning skills to take difficult decisions in a sound manner. 5. The only reason they need wimpy support groups (aka feminism) is because of their primal instinct of inferiority. 6. Women have never invented anything worth mentioning during the last thousand years of human history. The computer you're using, the electricity, the house you live in, the car you drive, the job you work for, the gasoline that fuels your car, the desk, the pencil, the paper and everything you use in your everyday life was invented and created by men. 7. Mathematics, philosophy, science, medicine, and all the important blocks of modern society were created by men. 8. Women provide us men with their physical beauty. Which is the only worthy talent they posses besides bearing children. If they can't do that, their worthless. This is why you shouldn't take women seriously and let them affect your mood in any way. Take pride in being a man and be unapologetic. Break out of the illusions women make you believe... You go far beyond bashing feminism in your post. You bash women as a whole and their sense of identity as a people. From what you make them out to be in your post, it makes me wonder why you would want to fuck them in the first place. Why are you in this game? Just to get your dick wet? There is more to it than that. 1. This is actually wrong. There have been several cultures in the past that have armies consisting of either both genders or even solely women in some cases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_military read that. 2. In some cases, women are incapable of doing the same job men do because they lack the physical ability, which has absolutely nothing to do with their cognitive capacity or determination to do so. You can't deny that, on average, women have smaller and more petite frames, meaning that they may not be able to lift as much weight, limiting their ability to do manual labour. Their brains work just as well as males. Here's the Time 100 for this year. Check out how many are females. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packa ... 85,00.html 3. Yes, they have. As Vaj already said, Cleopatra was an Egyptian ruler, who married Julius Caesar and had a major impact on his life, and thus on the Roman empire. Hatshepsut is another example of a female Egyptian Pharoah, who led Egypt from 1479-1458 BCE. Oh, and don't forget about Joan of Arc, who turned the tide of the Hundred Years' War in Medieval Europe. Here's a list of about 1000 female rulers from throughout history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fe ... le_holders Even if most of the rulers of the past were men, it isn't because women lack "strenght" and "itelligence" to do so, it is because of the unfortunate dominance throughout history of misogynists such as yourself. 4. I'm sure the thousands of women listed in the above link carry more than sufficient logic and reasoning skills to vote if they can lead a nation and successfully unite an entire population, especially through turmoil (which many of them faced). 5. ??? http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full ... ;177/6/484 In most countries, more men commit suicide than women. Is this because we have some "primal instinct of superiority"? Feminism is a movement established in order to overcome the struggles presented by people such as yourself. 6. See links already posted. There are many famous female inventors and inventions that you use every single day. 7. Mathematics: No one person founded any subject of study. Many people made many individual contributions that added to the subject as a whole. http://womenshistory.about.com/od/scien ... hwomen.htm Philosophy: This field was long closed to women because of misogynistic laws. They still managed to contribute throughout history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_philosophy Science: "Women have contributed to science from its earliest days..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_science Medicine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_medicine 8. Women are beautiful, but also contribute massively to culture, science, and society as a whole. I believe you are not seeing the world from a healthy perspective. Stand back for a moment and try to reevaluate your view. Wake up. |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:26 am ] |
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Woah, woah woah! Before I say anything more, you guys honestly believe women are better than men? |
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