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Author:  [AFC] Socrates [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  This doesn't make sence! Why wont she reply to me ?
Hey so I am a first year university student now. I went to frosh week met a few girls n all n one specific girl i saw interest a little. She was cute and seemed like i cud get her. The frosh day with her was weird;

We were walking downtown with the group and she was beside me, randomly she says "my feet hurtt" and i said 'yea me too" and i tried continueing the conversation about how my leg is injured and then she just became uninterested. She was giving shitty responces n seemed like she wasnt listening. Then i just stoped talkin to her (happend twice that day where i felt ignored or w/e)

Anyway that is just the backup info.... now the next week i went to the club for the first time and guess what i saw her there. I went to her, she was with the same group of frosh people, and i tapped her shoulder asked her if she remembered me. She actually rememberd my name (but my name is like named after somone famous so maybe thats why...) and she gave me a hug...then introduced me to the group asking if they remembered me n stuff.

After introduction I said " hey lets dance" and she came infront of me and we were grinding. the group sat down after a while to rest... perfect chance to get her number so i ask and i get. we went back on the dance floor and randomly she comes to me and asks "what program are you in agian?" to me thats an ioi right. later on the night we hold hands, she was pulling/guiding me to follow her to the group (kino?), we were grinding the whole night and we lost the group too.

To me it seemed like wow i found somone finally whos cute and shows interest in me. AFter we start looking for the group cause we loose them and then she was walking in front of me so i didnt want to follow her cause it looked like dog chasing bone. so I stopped and later in the night text her saying i lost her n that hope she was fine.


She gives a good reply... just the ending was bad and it said " bla bla bla found them LOL , im home right now, good night and see you around."

I reply , "lol alrite peace yoour fun :)"

then next morning i reply to her telling her 'hey i just woke up it was my first clubbing experience'

and she doesnt reply to that.

i give it a full day and what ever few days actualy then i go on facebook and write on her wall asking her hows class n stuff.

she hasnt replied to that either.

Now I dont know what to do... she seems like the best chance i have because of the interest she was showing.

Oh ya forgot one thing very important. I noticed on facebook she has a boyfriend she is in a relationship.

thanks for reading this long message please help me..

What do I do next? I want to chill with her!!
her bf is not even as good looking as me wtfff!
Author:  AFC Royal [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:09 am ]
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Sounds like you came across as either needy/not dominant, both of which are turn offs.
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i tried continueing the conversation about how my leg is injured and then she just became uninterested. She was giving shitty responces n seemed like she wasnt listening. Then i just stoped talkin to her (happend twice that day where i felt ignored or w/e)
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and i tapped her shoulder asked her if she remembered me
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later on the night we hold hands, she was pulling/guiding me to follow her to the group (kino?),
All these points look bad. First point, become a better conversationlist. Read Marcus Oakley's free ebook for help on that.

Second point, expect her to remember you, and you could gone for THE CLAW there. Which is probs what I would have done.

Third point, hell, doesn't count as kino if SHE'S LEADING YOU. YOU LEAD HER. THAT'S THE MANLY WAY TO DO IT.

You've got a good start, as you don't completely freeze up like a deer in the headlights, but, now, you just need to work on BEING a MAN.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:37 am ]
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Never ask if people remember you. Of course they remember you, you're the fucking shit.

Never tell a girl about your lack of experience, unless you are doing some deep comfort stuff and want to give away a little embarrassing fact so that she'll open up. First clubbing experience was a bad text.

Asking how her classes were is a FUCKING BORING thing to post on her wall.

Don't text her for a few days, then send her a text with some kind of funny or interesting or curiousness-inducing quality to it. Make her want to text you back. Then invite her out to something you're already going to with friends, and have fun, isolate, comfort build, kino escalate and close.
Author:  Shyler [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:43 am ]
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To me it seemed like wow i found somone finally whos cute and shows interest in me.
Bad, very bad inner game. Never say or think such things!

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then next morning i reply to her telling her 'hey i just woke up it was my first clubbing experience'
What were you thinking?
Author:  The Designer [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:45 pm ]
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Ok. Let's get to the root of this.

First of all, don't go after a woman if you think she's better than you (this is a loaded suggestion.). Think about this and I'll address it in a moment.

Second, even if you have to slow down your responses, think about what you're saying and what type of message you're conveying. The EXACT same information can be said in 2 different ways that convey completely different secondary information.

Third. Do you speak the same way you type? (See how jackassish that sounded?). How about this: Are you smooth when you talk? I noticed some of your post was a little jumbled. (Same basic information, COMPLETELY different tone and secondary information). The smoother and more confident/eloquent/succint your speech is, the more of YOU that gets conveyed and less attention gets spent on deciphering what you're saying.

Fourth, I think all of the guys who are new to this need to take baby steps. "Stealing" an HB from a BF is an "amazing" accomplishment, but it's also a much more difficult one. Not only do you have to convey (remember this word) your attractive qualities to this woman, such that she wants you, but on top of it, you have to convey enough attraction to get her to leave her bf for you.

Impossible? No! Easy? Not really...

A quick note about "Stealing": Having been on the receiving and dealing side of a "stolen" partner...actually, more than that. I've been stolen, I've stole, and I've been stolen from. It's REALLY not a great feeling when you realize what you're doing to the poor schmuck who loses out (The girl's bf or your gf). Steal with care. In other words, don't get a girl to cheat or steal her just for fun or for a one night stand. Do it because she's Relationship Material and you can honestly say that you and her will be a better couple.

The meat of the post:
Ok back to our first concept and the word "convey". If you take the "She's out of my league" approach to the women you're interested in, you're more than likely not going to end up like Jay Baruchel with the HB10 in the movie. And I think a common misconception is that we need to Prove our worthiness to these women we find attractive. The reality is that we don't need to prove anything. What we CAN do is Convey our attractive qualities while at the same time learning about hers.

A perfect example. I have an HB9 (with an HB10 brain. Love me them intelligent women) on the back burner right now. You can look up a recent thread I posted about what happened if you're interested. Right now, I still think she is gorgeous and I still think her brain is sexy, but there's a lack of attraction due to some personality "flaws" that now allow me to treat her like a normal person (versus the common AFC "godess"). These flaws are not related to the demise of our first date (that was my fault), but the missed first date allowed me to start considering the fact that looks and intelligence are great, but she is still human. She is not perfect. On our next "outing"/date, I'm going to be more interested in learning about her than conveying my attractive qualities. This is how it should be. Equality is a beautiful thing.

DHVing and Negging are designed to even out the playing field because our society automatically places physically attractive women on a pedestal.
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