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Author:  necr09string [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  3 Quick questions for a budding PUA

Hey everyone!

This forum has been amazing in helping me improve my game. As i'm in High School, Natural game seems the most obvious tree to follow, and i have REASONABLE success in women in general, however i have a few questions.

1. I am very popular in my year group, and although I often get IOI from women at school and social gatherings, the women that i get these from are maybe 6-7 at the most. The very pretty girls tend to belong to a large group, at the top of the heirachy. I am known in these girls, and I am friends with one or two, just as a way of getting to their friends, who are easily 9-10. The problem is, i can run game on these girls, and although they DO display interest from time to time, they seem almost "untouchable". I have kiss-closed one or two, but none seem to be interested in a relationship of ANY KIND. How do i approach a girl that simply does not want to get involved??

2. I very often find, i go through "phases" where i am incredibly confident and hyped up, i make friends, and make good interactions with women, however in "downtime" when i am at a party or something, i get there and rarely feel "in the mood". Does anybody have any suggestions on how to get into that confident state of mind on command?

3. I have read a lot of DeAngelos material, as well as Mystery Method and have read several books on NLP. What im asking is, is it a good idea to incorporate ideas from other books such as MM into a natural game? I very often run out of things to say in conversation. This could be down to lack of inner game, but would it help if i had some canned lines as "fallback" in case everything goes to shit?

Thank you so much for any contributions, i'm trying to get good at this before i hit university in a years time, which is when the fun really starts ;)

Author:  londonass [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:57 am ]
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Hi

Firstly I would say chill out and give yourself a pat on the back, you are already approaching and interacting with 9-10s without anxiety so you are doing well and must have natural game to some extent, well done

1) Where you are closing Kiss close, with those 9-10 or any girl for that matter and they are SAYING they are not into a relationship could well be bullshit and just an auto-pilot shit test, i.e. she likes you and wants to be gamed more, she wants you to qualify that you are good enough

2) You are going into here state management/ mood switching which is indeed NLP and what u can do is anchor a positive state with a small routine id be happy to outline for you, it is simple but highly effective...just PM me

3) I would say incorporating other stuff is fine as long as you arent over killing your learning, build a solid foundation first of the basics and then move to more advanced gaming

Lost for words? get her really interested and then say you have got to find your friends, I might see you later (this is distinctively different from 'maybe see you later?) dont supplicate/suck up...be Alpha...tell her what u want to do (dont ask her if you can se her later!!!!!) and go off...then you can regroup your thoughts and get her back to an emotional state and game her...if you havent started gaming some other girl right in her eye site....much better to do that and get her jealous!

cheers

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:13 pm ]
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(1) Game those 7s like normal, then friendzone THEM. This way you have massive social proof going into your interactions with the 9-10s, which is huge in high school as you know. If you leverage your 7 friends correctly, they will invite you to places and introduce you to their 9-10s, who then you're able to game from a position of higher value then a cold approach at a party or whatever. Also you're creating some nice jealousy plotlines and you'll have a lot of women fighting for your attention, because those 7s you friendzoned are wondering why they're not good enough.

(2) We all go through these phases, nobody is 100% "on" all the time, don't worry about it. If you're struggling at certain parties, try and go to other things that you enjoy more, like maybe going shopping or the beach or whatever with groups of girls and friends. Alternatively, host your own events and bring your different groups together. This massively raises your value, and if you're bringing in girls, your guy friends will fucking love you for helping them get laid!

(3) Incorporate anything and everything you think sounds good and is congruent with your gaming style. Why not? If you're super natural but you suddenly find yourself in a conversational lull, then why not open up a new thread with an RSD routine or a MM opener? There's no need to choose just one method and only use that.

You're already doing really well and the social value stuff really works in university so you will do great!

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