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Author:  drz [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  how do i turn it around? o.O

Ok. I'm going to make as short as possible..

Met the girl at the billiards place. Saw her again in the club and exchanged numbers, even tho she had a bf we grinded. Asked her out for a few 'dates' and it was pretty lame cuz she kept bringing up her bf. Anyways, the next few dates i went caveman on her. She told me she was a virgin. We had another few dates and i pretty much taught her how to kiss. In between the dates she would constantly text me stupid shit, like conversation starters, but not questions: shit like "Boo!" So I replied and took the conversations to meet-up directions. Now, this one date i got her to orgasm by rubbing her, but didn't get to fuck her. This is when it started. She stopped texting me. So I became the initiator, thinking 'it was good, because she was probably unsure about what will happen next and she is scared to start it herself'. So I kept texting her, initiating the dates and getting closer and closer to fuck close every time. Finally, I did fuck close her and it wasn't that great...i didn't get to finish, plus mine wasn't very hard. Shouldn't she be very attached to me now cuz I'm her first?? Still she doesn't text me and I'm the initiator, as if I'm constantly asking for it. I've seen her 2 times that: the first I tried to fuck close again but didn't work out, and the second time we were both tired so I didn't push it.
Very rarely I got a refused to set up a date and it was because she had to work. But now it's becoming more often.

Anyways, the question is: How do I turn it around? I don't want her chase me, I just want a 50/50 or at least some kind of initiative...How do I do it? Is she scared? Am I doing something wrong? Please advice....really need you help because it always happens to me... want to find out the reason. If it would help, ask me questions and I will answer them.

Author:  drz [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:22 am ]
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Just wanted to add something:

I never asked her to be my gf.
She did break up with her bf...When I asked why she said he was getting jealous of us..

Author:  drz [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:12 pm ]
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I really need some help, it's screwing with my head...and I'm prone to doing AFC things...

Author:  Melissa [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:37 pm ]
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It's possible that you're rushing her--and yes, it is entirely possible for one to have done a certain sexual act and then decide that he/she wants to back off for a bit. Even if you aren't directly pressuring her, or are doing so for reasons other than your own gratification, it's possible that she still feels like you're pressuring her and wants to back off. (Note that I am not implying this is definitively the case--I'm just mentioning examples.)

You could always ask what's wrong so long as you are careful how you frame it--for instance, "I notice that lately you've had a lot less free time and often seem tired when we get together. Are you alright, or is something going on?" The key here is to ask in a non-threatening, non-accusatory manner.

Author:  afc_gone [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:21 pm ]
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Or she's starting to figure out that pussy brings her power and she's letting you chase her... How old is she anyway...I think that is an important piece of info in order to get you the right anwser.

Author:  drz [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:31 am ]
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we're both 20.
and it was her opened my fly...so she definately wanted it herself, i dint pressure it much...plus i told her to tell if something is wrong and i'll stop doing what we doing...she was also asking me to go faster when we did it...

Author:  drz [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:41 pm ]
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So what are my tactics? What should I do now?

Ask her out??? I do feel like it, or am illusioned that that will make us closer...dunno.
Freeze out?

Author:  Sarph [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:52 pm ]
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As Melissa said, you should probably try to talk to her without being too direct. Ask in a casual manner if there's something wrong. You're not supposed to chase her, so if she isn't initiating contact anymore something's changed. You should try to find out what that is.

Author:  drz [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:22 am ]
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So what do u mean? Should i text her that or see her and ask....

Should I freeze her out for now?

I'm going to give up very soon and ask her out tomorrow....it's fucking with my head..

Author:  Sarph [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:20 am ]
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I'm not an experienced PUA, so I couldn't tell if a freeze out would make her crawl back to you or worsen things even more. Since this is important to you I would guess talking face to face would be better than texting, especially since you would be able to read her body language in case she was dishonest. Asking her out might be needy, I'm not really sure, I don't feel like I understand your situation well enough. However a good tip is to take a day off and just relax, then gather your thoughts and see if somethings happened. I once went from crying to laughing to being shit scared to being angry all within a couple of hours because of a girl, I told myself to get my shit together and just fucking relax, excuse the language. The day after I felt a lot better because I re-learned that I control my emotions, not some girl.

Author:  tipaj [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:40 am ]
Post subject:  Help!! How do I turn it around?

So WTF do I do now?????

I've asked her a couple of times (by text) already to meet up. I even called once and there was no pick up, but she tested back.

How the fuck do I change situation w/o meeting up?

WTF do I do???

Help! I'm getting oneitis......

Author:  TheLastWolf [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:16 am ]
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Freeze out if you want her to initiate, easy as that bro.

Author:  hmm12 [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:41 am ]
Post subject:  Relax

Bruv i've gt a lil experience under my belt ......... b4 you do anytin look at it like this........ if she left her bf for you ... then there's a possibility she'll leave you for sum1 else ....... she aint gf material .... i personaly thote that 1 of the basics of being an PUA was dnt get caught up ..... dnt let her in your system ..... right nw your goings through is wat almost evry PUA gne through wen they 1st start ..... ur fallin for her ....... get her outa ya head n fix up ...... mst women bring drama ..... jus let her sort herself out .... if she's interested she'll come to u ...... if nt den so wat ur a PUA u gt otha women libed atleast i hope u hav ....... aint u herd the saying dnt put all ya eggs in 1 basket ...... ur problems that ur comitin to much ...... keep your options open ..... dnt behave a sucker cuz no 1 likes it ...... nt women or men i bet if you told your mates this they'll say ur PUSSY WHIPPED

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