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| Author: | Bluue [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:07 pm ] |
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Read a bit about it and get the NLP bit but where can i learn about it without paying extortionate prices for all of Ross Jeffries stuff.. i am a humble student i can´t afford such things. Are there any books you could reccomend to teach me the basics? or a way to get me started? Thanks Bluue |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:18 pm ] |
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If you search and browse the web carefully, you will discover a lot of free material regarding the basics of pick up. There are many websites that offer tons of free content. Like seductiontuition.com When Style gets asked why he is so good, he would always reply "The basics!" So you should master them. All you gotta do is some digging around for content and material. |
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| Author: | KristallNachte [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:05 pm ] |
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most people on this site don't really support SS since its rather unethical. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:30 pm ] |
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Quote: most people on this site don't really support SS since its rather unethical.
untrue, and untrue.OP, there's an NLP section on this very forum. |
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| Author: | Vuvuzela [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:34 pm ] |
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SS isn't unethical. Raping is unethical. |
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| Author: | KristallNachte [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:56 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: most people on this site don't really support SS since its rather unethical.
untrue, and untrue.OP, there's an NLP section on this very forum. as much as many support the use of NLP, very few, if any, have ever really supported the use of SS. |
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| Author: | ImNaShitFool [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:11 am ] |
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Not sure about NLP...but far as speed seduction goes Haven't tried it but I researched it a bit.. From what I gather its mostly about raising "buying temperatures" (levels of interest/attraction that will make a girl willing to do more and more) like... From closed (not letting u game her) to open...to like.. Kino to higher level kino.. To venue change... Etc. & raising buying temperatures is about exciting her & giving her different emotions.. Jokes, story telling w.e. & then when her temperature is ready to increase u get some type of shit test... That she gives to keep her own temperature from increasing.. N if u pass shes more open.. But fail & she closes. That's all I know about it tho, not sure how much more to it there is. |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:21 am ] |
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personally i have no problem using speed seduction the most important thing is that it works.. and to be quite honest i dont really see what others concerns are. speed seduction is in essence making proper and full use of communication. yes there are forbidden patterns however ross jeffries didnt invent them to begin with, others did! the reason that forbidden patterns are forbidden is that they create dangerous responses like obsession and jealousy.. the forbidden patterns arent even taught by rj. its about creating positive responses like comfort, sexual escalation and attraction. ross does do a free online course its not the full course but its a stepping stone www.seduction4free.com |
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| Author: | Chief [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:11 pm ] |
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Quote: the forbidden patterns arent even taught by rj.
I've seen him teach one lol
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:56 pm ] |
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i didnt think he did, i know in 'the game' he said that they were naughty and that students shouldnt learn these things. i think that they are certainly things to stay away from i ve read a few of them which will go un-named because i dont want to give newbies ideas and to be honest what they do disturbs me! i learned them because i wanted to know what not to do, not to experiment with them at the end of the day these are peoples lives we are affecting in a positive and a negative way! i know that there is a dark side to speed seduction and NLP but there is a dark side to all the pick up arts, they can easily be manipulated for immoral reasons. its easy to say that its just speed seduction that is bad because it has the connection to hypnosis and nlp and we see it as a form of coercion, sadly though some 'mentors' have decided to capitalize on it and market dark pick-up techniques |
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| Author: | technoslaughter [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:39 am ] |
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I teach NLP to my students for self change. Speed seduction isn't just patterns. And anyone who has actually talked to Ross and taken his course knows it's more about using the NLP to change your own energies faster than any other program out there. If you are using anything resembling the Mystery method, guess what. You are using speed seduction. They just use different terms. I'll let you in on a little secret. All the venusian guys use patterns and NLP language during comfort. They aren't allowed to teach it because that is Ross's territory. However if you listen to Revelations from the venusian crew cd's that came with the book, Lovedrop drops several of Ross Jeffries's own Speed seduction gambits. Gambler specifically talks about teaching NLP now. Ross perfected it. He who is without sin cast the first stone. Amazes me how many PUAs when using the same material, under different terminology, are the first to throw stones. |
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