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| Author: | Octave [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Does anyone relate to my game? |
I am new to PUA, i have gone out and done the newbie mission many times, i do it every day i guess you could say. But i realized my game works differently from girls i meet through friends, and random girls i approach. Does anyone else seem to use more "natural game" with people they are introduced to. And more "unnatural game" (openers, routines etc.) with randoms. I have noticed i struggle with the randoms more so than i do with aquantances. I do not know why. With people i am introduced to or meet at a party i open fine, we flirt, talk, and then i get screwed at the mid-game when things get boring. I know how to fix this though... by working on escalation, however with randoms only some of the girls i approach like in a mall or in public with an opener respond in any positive fun way, and i usually will cut it off right after the opener due to not knowing wtf to do. Any tips. My goal is to be able to number close randoms, and its not like i am going to approach a girl in the mall and wind up having a 20 minute conversation with her and then get her number. I need to do it faster, but don't really know how to do that effectively. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anyone relate to my game? |
Quote: I have noticed i struggle with the randoms more so than i do with aquantances. I do not know why. I think that is because with people you are introduce to, you are more in a comfortable state than with randoms. As you are near someone you know and are comfortable around them so you are comfortable around the girl you where introduce to. Quote: My goal is to be able to number close randoms, and its not like i am going to approach a girl in the mall and wind up having a 20 minute conversation with her and then get her number. I actually have done that once. Quote: I need to do it faster, but don't really know how to do that effectively. Why do you need to do it faster? I think your first step is to work on getting better at number closing. Once you get better at that then you can work on how fast you can number close. Theres nothing wrong with talking to a random girl at the mall for 20 minutes when there is a conversation going between you and its not forced.
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| Author: | Octave [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:07 am ] |
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haha i need to do it faster because 1. im dont think i can hold a 20 minute convo with a stranger just because i am not THAT good of a conversationalist. 2. I dont think that all girls will spend 20 minutes of there life talking to a random stranger but thats probably me just not being good enough at having a conversation when i say faster i dont mean like be a pro, i mean learn to put in a time restraint and get a number. i think i will do better with that is all. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:11 am ] |
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Sounds like you need to become better at conversations then. It almost seems like to me that you are trying to jump to the next "step" without a solid foundation for yourself. How can you expect to number close if you don't think you can converse with a girl for 20 minutes? I am not saying you need to be all pro at it. But if you can't hold a conversation for 20 minutes how do you expect to number close a girl? |
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| Author: | Octave [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:24 am ] |
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true. Its just wierd to me that i easily can with someone im introduced to, and not a random stranger. Actually to my suprise i just came home on an hour bus ride and talked to this girl easily for the whole ride, but it wasnt a VERY flirty which causes me to not consider it anything. Also it was on a bus, so she couldnt leave even if she wanted to haha. Well is there anything you would say i should do to improve this? |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:39 am ] |
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Just keep on talking and making chit chat with random people. Don't be afraid to flirt with girls for fun either. |
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| Author: | Nyseto [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:45 am ] |
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Here is what I do: I don't even focus on holding a conversation. I always start off with a time constraint, number close her, and then leave. After all of that, I can run a bunch of scenarios through my head and PLAN what I am going to do so that when I really have a conversation, it will seem much more natural. I can go back and try to remember things that I saw on her, etc. What works well is making assumptions. These assumptions work best when they are TRUE. For example, you see a girl and you tell her, you look bored as shit. And she is a salesperson waiting at this counter for hours. It's an assumption, and it's also true. She can then say, "Haha yeah, you won't believe what it's like" great opener... Study the context, it's the basis on what you're going to open with, neg, etc. |
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