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Author:  Straight Up [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  GIVING IOI'S
Ok, so i give IOIs by actually carry on talking to them and teasing them...

im actually quite bad at giving ioi's unless i do it subconciously or i am doing them but dont know that they are IOI's??

So could anyone point out a few IOI's i could do?

Cheers
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:43 am ]
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O.o.....=/



um.....what?
Author:  Straight Up [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:07 am ]
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exactly what it says on the tin

what ways can i give IOI's, just kino, etc..?
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:15 am ]
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you don't give IOIs....they just happen.

and IOI thats conscious is a SOI.

and you're supposed to be more concerned with the IOIs she's showing you.
Author:  Straight Up [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:17 am ]
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Ok thanks again :) yeah i can read iois from girls pretty well, of course not as near as good as id like to but yeah :P haha
Author:  ~Finesse [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:31 am ]
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O.o.....=/



um.....what?


+1



Wahahaha, this is exactly what I thought.



Most of what you do is going to be an IOI... approaching/opening/qualifying/escalating.

Why are you even wasting energy being concerned with this?


Rather, what is it you hope to 'achieve' by giving out 'IOI's ?
Author:  Straight Up [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:23 am ]
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Most of what you do is going to be an IOI... approaching/opening/qualifying/escalating.
This is exactly what u thought, but i read somewhere that once youve gotten so many IOI's you have to show her a few IOI's.. i was like WTF...
Author:  ~Finesse [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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This is exactly what i thought, but i read somewhere that once youve gotten so many IOI's you have to show her a few IOI's..

Then why second guess yourself? A lot of shit you read is going to be a load of bullshit. Learn what to ignore and what to consider.

Listen to yourself first, before listening to others.

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i was like WTF...

Sounds like you already know how to judge what is nonsence and what isn't. Trust yourself a bit more.

(:


Love

~Finesse
Author:  Saint Pixie [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:50 pm ]
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I would disagree with KristallNachte about a conscious IOI automatically being an SOI. In Mystery's Microcalibration theory, he says that you need to monitor not only HER IOIs and IODs, but your own too.

For example, at a party at my house, one of my friends had the following interaction with a girl (HB9)

Him: Neg
Her: Roll off, Cross Arms
Him: Neg
Her: Gets up and walks away

What he could have done is some of Gambler's Tongue in Cheek Romanticism:

Him: Neg
Her: Roll off, Cross Arms
Him: Big hug "aww, you know you're the only one for me!"
Her: Laugh, Hug him back

See, in the first example, he was not watching his own IOIs and IODs, and drove her off; however, in the second example, he notices her arms crossing, and her roll-off and reacts by throwing in an over-exaggerated IOI (that he obviously doesn't mean literally: he doesn't love her or anything) which brings her back in.

Here's a short list of common IOIs you can monitor as you give them:
your feet/hips pointing towards her,
your muscles tensing (they subconsciously notice),
kino,
creating rapport (agreeing with her),
tongue in cheek romanticism,
proximity,
helping her rather than someone else (in a school or work environment),
leaning in,
et c.

If I were you, I would make an effort to be conscious of every IOI and IOD I give, and when to give them; it seems to help me (and Mystery, seeing as he thought of it).

Happy Gaming :D
-Saint Pixie
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:17 pm ]
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See, in the first example, he was not watching his own IOIs and IODs
no he wasn't wathcing HER IODs,
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however, in the second example, he notices her arms crossing, and her roll-off and reacts by throwing in an over-exaggerated IOI (that he obviously doesn't mean literally: he doesn't love her or anything) which brings her back in.
that was an SOI not an IOI....

nothing you really said represented how you 'disagree' with me since nothing of what you said counteracted my statements whatsoever. I'm thinking you're butthurt cause I called you out in your thread lol
Author:  Saint Pixie [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:25 pm ]
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I'm just saying that you need to watch both her IOIs and IODs, and your IOIs and IODs. If you fire from the hip, like you suggest, and like my friend did, it is possible to not react to her IOIs or IODs in the proper way, and therefore lose the set.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:53 pm ]
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fire from the hip? wtf are you talking about?
Author:  Saint Pixie [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:55 pm ]
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"you don't give IOIs....they just happen" By not being aware of the IOIs you give out, you are essentially "firing from the hip" and could make a careless error like my friend did - that's all I'm saying.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:23 pm ]
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iois that dont happen naturally arent iois
Author:  Saint Pixie [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:42 pm ]
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Not always.
I was opening a set, while I was seated, they were walking behind me.
I opened over my right shoulder towards them, their tone was that of disinterest, and so I turned and faced forward (directly away from them), to show disinterest. Yet as they began to show interest by walking around towards my left, so they could see me, I shifted my body so I could then look at them while talking. I did not state my interest, I merely indicated it by slightly moving to look at them. I was conscious of both my IOD towards them, and my IOI towards them.
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