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Author:  Legs [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Hey guys, I'm new to this and had a few questions?

Well, i'm about to turn 17 and have glasses.
So for the time being, until I either get contacts or lasik I want to know how to work on inner game and stuff like that.

Where should I start ?
I'm an afc, only been with one girl and it was "unofficial" anyways.

Author:  Chelios [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:05 pm ]
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Your glasses can work as an advantage, see it that way, not as something negative.

Inner game is all about your inner-self (obviously) Your confidence, your ability to understand, your wanting to learn, belief etc.

I take it you want to learn, are you confident? I'd guess not.. Not in a rude way , so start building on that. Have you read any material yet?

Author:  Legs [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:54 pm ]
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Your glasses can work as an advantage, see it that way, not as something negative.

Inner game is all about your inner-self (obviously) Your confidence, your ability to understand, your wanting to learn, belief etc.

I take it you want to learn, are you confident? I'd guess not.. Not in a rude way , so start building on that. Have you read any material yet?

I've read the game and just started on a book of body language. Would you recommend anything else ? Like how to develop more confidence and inner game ?
See my dad shelters me so I don't get to go out much , so once I graduate (this coming year) I plan on taking a year off to learn pickup and attraction skills.
Thanks in advance

Author:  Chelios [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:06 pm ]
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Your glasses can work as an advantage, see it that way, not as something negative.

Inner game is all about your inner-self (obviously) Your confidence, your ability to understand, your wanting to learn, belief etc.

I take it you want to learn, are you confident? I'd guess not.. Not in a rude way , so start building on that. Have you read any material yet?

I've read the game and just started on a book of body language. Would you recommend anything else ? Like how to develop more confidence and inner game ?
See my dad shelters me so I don't get to go out much , so once I graduate (this coming year) I plan on taking a year off to learn pickup and attraction skills.
Thanks in advance
Fair enough, buy a book called "natural art of seduction" by gambler aka richard la ruina. He owns this forum, great book on natural game, inner etc, check amazon!

Author:  Absolute_Zero [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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First things first my man - fix your image.

You DON'T have to be particuarly good looking or anything like that - it comes down to two things. One, your style. Two, your grooming.

OK, Style. Wear something nice, that you feel comfortable in, and preferably makes you stand out from every other guy a little bit, or perhaps a lot. The most basic approach to this is to wear a nice button down shirt, some good jeans, stylish shoes and maybe an eye catching necklace or bracelet. The eye catching stuff is known as peacocking and it gives women a reason to notice you, and a reason to talk to you, maybe even touch you.

As for grooming - be smart! Don't go out sarging without a good shower. I exfoliate and cleanse and all that as well - never under estimate the appeal of nice skin. If you have a beard, maintain it in a style.

Once you're comfortable with your image, get in field as much as possible. Sure, read and learn, but practice is everything. I'd reccomend Magic Bullets by the LoveSystems guys personally. It's everything you need, and is basically an evolution of the Mystery Method which is more or less the foundation for most modern PUAs.

Ask as many questions as you need to, find out your stumbling blocks, work on them.

We're all in this journey together brother - if I can help you, I will.

Author:  Legs [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:38 am ]
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First things first my man - fix your image.

You DON'T have to be particuarly good looking or anything like that - it comes down to two things. One, your style. Two, your grooming.

OK, Style. Wear something nice, that you feel comfortable in, and preferably makes you stand out from every other guy a little bit, or perhaps a lot. The most basic approach to this is to wear a nice button down shirt, some good jeans, stylish shoes and maybe an eye catching necklace or bracelet. The eye catching stuff is known as peacocking and it gives women a reason to notice you, and a reason to talk to you, maybe even touch you.

As for grooming - be smart! Don't go out sarging without a good shower. I exfoliate and cleanse and all that as well - never under estimate the appeal of nice skin. If you have a beard, maintain it in a style.

Once you're comfortable with your image, get in field as much as possible. Sure, read and learn, but practice is everything. I'd reccomend Magic Bullets by the LoveSystems guys personally. It's everything you need, and is basically an evolution of the Mystery Method which is more or less the foundation for most modern PUAs.

Ask as many questions as you need to, find out your stumbling blocks, work on them.

We're all in this journey together brother - if I can help you, I will.
Thanks man, that means a lot.
My goals right now are to learn a lot of stuff this year and maybe try it out a little bit then go sargin like crazy once I graduate.
I'll try and get a pic up soon but wheres a good place to get some button down shirts ? I have no idea haha cus i'm almost 17 I only shop at places liek American Eagle and Boathouse
Your the man, man !

Author:  Absolute_Zero [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Try put into practice what you learn AS you learn it rather than learn it all first. You wouldn't learn to drive by reading a book on driving from cover to cover and THEN going out and practicing - this is not that different!

Go on the GQ website, see what kind of shirts and stuff are popular, maybe save some images to your cell phone, and then when you're out shopping you'll be able to know what's fashionable.

Another great way to do it is find out where someone who's style you admire shops, go to that shop and see who is the friendliest/most helpful girl working there. Then ask her to help you pick something out that is stylish and explain you're trying to branch out from your normal look. It's a fun way to get talking to someone who's probably attractive and it won't be awkward as it's her job.

I would reccomend somewhere specific but I'm from the UK so we probably have different stores.

Anything else, just ask!

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Author:  overcome [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:54 am ]
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If you don't have much money to spend on nice clothes make sure whatever you're wearing is clean and IRONED. It makes a huge difference when your normal white/black/blue T-shirt is ironed along with some normal jeans. Think about how many guys go out in public with nice clean-ironed clothes....not many guys do it. Before you can be a PUA you most fix yourself and your image. Besides, if you know you look good, your confidence will sky rocket.

Good luck to every AFC (including myself)!

Author:  jurupa [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:25 am ]
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OK, Style. Wear something nice, that you feel comfortable in, and preferably makes you stand out from every other guy a little bit, or perhaps a lot. The most basic approach to this is to wear a nice button down shirt, some good jeans, stylish shoes and maybe an eye catching necklace or bracelet. The eye catching stuff is known as peacocking and it gives women a reason to notice you, and a reason to talk to you, maybe even touch you.

As for grooming - be smart! Don't go out sarging without a good shower. I exfoliate and cleanse and all that as well - never under estimate the appeal of nice skin. If you have a beard, maintain it in a style.
I would also add start working to your own style. While its good to have a "default" look, its way better to have your own look to have as you stand out way much more than any peacock item could make you stand out. But this certain of thing takes a lot of time and effort. As you have to try out various things and see how they work and what have you.
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Go on the GQ website, see what kind of shirts and stuff are popular, maybe save some images to your cell phone, and then when you're out shopping you'll be able to know what's fashionable.
This is just me, but I would stay away from trying to learn what is currently fashionable. Primary because it changes so much and if you try to follow it, it becomes very expensive clothing wise. And in my opinion a time waster.
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Another great way to do it is find out where someone who's style you admire shops, go to that shop and see who is the friendliest/most helpful girl working there. Then ask her to help you pick something out that is stylish and explain you're trying to branch out from your normal look. It's a fun way to get talking to someone who's probably attractive and it won't be awkward as it's her job.
The only thing here is a lot of retail workers are on commission. So a lot of them will try and get you to buy what ever you are looking at or trying on. Because of this it may be better to ask a female customer that is about for an opinion. Which is good practice for pick up.
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I would reccomend somewhere specific but I'm from the UK so we probably have different stores.
We have H&M here in the US, and I believe you guys also have Gap over there. Not sure what else is shared across the pond.

Author:  jurupa [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hey guys, I'm new to this and had a few questions?

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Well, i'm about to turn 17 and have glasses.
So for the time being, until I either get contacts or lasik I want to know how to work on inner game and stuff like that.

Where should I start ?
I'm an afc, only been with one girl and it was "unofficial" anyways.
A bit more info would be useful. Like how tall you are and your weight etc, as this can very much change what clothes you wear. Also fyi there is nothing wrong with wearing glasses. I been wearing mine since the 4th grade and I never had any real problems with them when it comes to girls. It has actually been a peacock item for me a couple of times.

Author:  Absolute_Zero [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:55 am ]
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I would also add start working to your own style. While its good to have a "default" look, its way better to have your own look to have as you stand out way much more than any peacock item could make you stand out. But this certain of thing takes a lot of time and effort. As you have to try out various things and see how they work and what have you.

This is just me, but I would stay away from trying to learn what is currently fashionable. Primary because it changes so much and if you try to follow it, it becomes very expensive clothing wise. And in my opinion a time waster.
Following current fashion is good for a number of reasons even if someone doesn't personally choose to dress that way. One, it makes you seem in touch and in tune with what's going on. It gives you what the psychologists term 'privileged information' which increases her perception of your value. Two, if you can talk about this kind of stuff with girls and sound knowledgable it will set you apart from most other guys.

There's no need for guys to dress like a mall mannequin each and every month. But buying a few versatile, key items which can be mixed and matched, that happen to be in the current season's style is NEVER a bad thing.

As for developing your own style, yeah, do this. The KEY to dressing well is to wear something that you feel comfortable in and can rock well. If it appears eye catching or otherwise interesting to outsiders, all the better. Having a default look is a good base, and allows you to dress up with accesories easily for some variety without much effort.
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The only thing here is a lot of retail workers are on commission. So a lot of them will try and get you to buy what ever you are looking at or trying on. Because of this it may be better to ask a female customer that is about for an opinion. Which is good practice for pick up.
That may be the case a lot of the time but they still make commission off of whatever happens to look good on the person. I've dated a lot of fashion retail girls in the past and each and every one of them love dressing customers in clothes which compliment their body/style/face. They are also going to be knowledgeable as to a good cut of the clothing, a current style, and what goes with what.

I'd reccomend this over trying to pick up a female customer and get her opinion. A)It'll mostly seem weird. 2)This guy is totally new to pickup so I doubt he'd have the skills yet to succesfully pull off this kind of day game with confidence. 3)If you develop rapport with a particular sales assistant in a certain store, bring a chick there. If you can be greeted by name and seem at home their it'll increase your social proof.
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We have H&M here in the US, and I believe you guys also have Gap over there. Not sure what else is shared across the pond.
As far as what we call 'high street' goes, which basically is stylish, mid priced clothing of non-designer label, we have H+M, Topman, River Island...those are probably the main ones.

Good discussing this with you dude, I'm sure it'll help the thread starter to see that there are various paths and opinions in this pick-up community, and they are different but often equally valid 8)

Author:  FastFlyer [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:09 am ]
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I read The Game loved it and I was too looking for more books that were more like manuals. I got a shit load of books but since I don't have all the time in the world I haven't got a lot of reading. I am reading "The Mystery Method" which really breakes it down to stages of pick up. I really like it and I will be putting the bok to the test in a couple weeks in Vegas. Good Luck

Author:  jurupa [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:44 am ]
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Following current fashion is good for a number of reasons even if someone doesn't personally choose to dress that way. One, it makes you seem in touch and in tune with what's going on. It gives you what the psychologists term 'privileged information' which increases her perception of your value. Two, if you can talk about this kind of stuff with girls and sound knowledgable it will set you apart from most other guys.

There's no need for guys to dress like a mall mannequin each and every month. But buying a few versatile, key items which can be mixed and matched, that happen to be in the current season's style is NEVER a bad thing.

As for developing your own style, yeah, do this. The KEY to dressing well is to wear something that you feel comfortable in and can rock well. If it appears eye catching or otherwise interesting to outsiders, all the better. Having a default look is a good base, and allows you to dress up with accesories easily for some variety without much effort.
What I meant by "default" look was something that was in fashion but not something that completely followed the day to day fashion trends. More something that follow the fashion seasonal trends if you will. As a guy unless you are gay, talking about fashion here in the US runs the risk of making you look gay. Not saying it will for sure, but you do run the risk of it tho. Following fashion trends is not a bad idea, but I would limit to just doing it for each season of the year, so in essence 4 times a year, that way you keep taps on it but at the same time not go crazy in trying to keep up.
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That may be the case a lot of the time but they still make commission off of whatever happens to look good on the person. I've dated a lot of fashion retail girls in the past and each and every one of them love dressing customers in clothes which compliment their body/style/face. They are also going to be knowledgeable as to a good cut of the clothing, a current style, and what goes with what.
I am not saying there aren't girls that love to do this and get paid as well. But in my experience I have run into more girls trying to push the sale on me than telling me I look good because they honestly think that.
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I'd reccomend this over trying to pick up a female customer and get her opinion. A)It'll mostly seem weird. 2)This guy is totally new to pickup so I doubt he'd have the skills yet to succesfully pull off this kind of day game with confidence. 3)If you develop rapport with a particular sales assistant in a certain store, bring a chick there. If you can be greeted by name and seem at home their it'll increase your social proof.
True. Tho the only real problem is one can get comfortable and in turn this becomes a safety net for them. Talking to female customers removes this problem. Yes its not as easy as talking to the sales girl. But it gets you opening different girls instead of the same one and helps you remove any approach anxiety you may have.
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As far as what we call 'high street' goes, which basically is stylish, mid priced clothing of non-designer label, we have H+M, Topman, River Island...those are probably the main ones.
Never heard of the other stores. But thats interesting that H&M over there is considered mid price clothes. As both H&M that I have been into generally where selling clothes for around $20 USD, which basically low end price wise. The only place that sell clothes lower is Wal-Mart but even they are not that much cheaper. Tho I did see clothes in H&M that went up to $60 tho.
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Good discussing this with you dude, I'm sure it'll help the thread starter to see that there are various paths and opinions in this pick-up community, and they are different but often equally valid 8)
Ditto. :wink:

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