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Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  So I just got off the phone with my soon to be X-wife
I just finished doing "The Rose" pattern from Jeff Jeffries SS. More on that in a little bit....

My wife and I are getting divorced but she called me today subconsciously saying she wants me back because she's lonely and feels that I don't care. Well she always knew how to play me with her 4shit tests and I would always fall for them as a pathetic AFC always does. Not tonight, PUA in training "Overcome" didn't fall for her shit tests, I simply ignored them, changed topics, and laughed at her bull crap. It felt good to remain in complete control of the conversation during the 80 plus minutes we talked on the phone.

Towards the end of the conversation, I tell her that I have a secret that I wanna share with her, she basically begs for me to tell her. So I propose a "technique" I've learned that will make her relax. So I start of with the Rose pattern, I could hear her getting relaxed and horny during the entire pattern, in every command I threw at her I could hear the "doggy-dinner-bowl" through the phone. She got so hot when I described the shape of her favorite flower - I went into full detail. By the time I finished the "Rose Pattern", it sounded like she might have started masturbating because of the tone of her voice! I didn't want to sound like an AFC and ask her what she's doing so I told her to say "thank you overcome" and I gave her a command to kiss me through the phone (something I know she wouldn't have done without this SS Rose pattern). After she did what I commanded her to do, I said "I have to leave you now and enjoy your sweet and peaceful sleep".

This shit works wonders. I know if I was in front of her I would have been able to do almost anything to her including anal! :)

I wonder what type of effect the pattern has on her for the next few days. I'm excited, the new PUA in training fucking took command of the entire conversation while successfully deflecting her shit test.

Its only a start but I'm proud of the progress so far. Keep in my I've only discovered this PUA techniques a month ago while reading 4-5 PUA type books.
Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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Any comments, suggestions, and opinions welcomed.

Has anyone tried any of the speed seduction patterns by jeff jeffries? What type of effect did it have on the girl?
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:38 pm ]
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SS is mostly frowned upon here because it can be quickly misused and destroy a girls life and sense of self
Author:  James The Third [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:46 pm ]
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yup, I too see SS as a kind of "unfair game", and I'm not really interested in using it, cause I think it's a very desperate method.


However, it doesn't sound like you guys are meant for each other, if you were married and she still threw shit-tests at you. Shit-tests should come from the girl in the bar, not your wife :?
Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:50 pm ]
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SS is mostly frowned upon here because it can be quickly misused and destroy a girls life and sense of self
I see how that can happen. Has anyone tried any patterns before?

I ask because I feel some of the patterns are just meant to make a girl subconsciously think (about you and your voice) and get horny while your running the pattern. Then she associates those feelings with YOU. Off course you shouldn't run any patterns until you've reached comfort 2 or 3 so that you can quickly go into seduction with sex on the minds.
Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:00 pm ]
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yup, I too see SS as a kind of "unfair game", and I'm not really interested in using it, cause I think it's a very desperate method.
:?
How is it any different than running openers and going through mystery's and style's steps? I might sound like I'm defending SS cause the stuff I've read so far is rather harmless and its mean to put the female in a relaxed mood without no bitch shields. SS isn't some magic potion that makes a girl do anything you want.

If anyone can please show some examples why SS isn't "fair" or that its crap...

Thanks in advance
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:00 pm ]
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most people here have stories of trying some SS and never doing it again because the girl got creepy attached and shit

I'm only done basic mood modifications and they worked well
Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:18 pm ]
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"Others may say that NLP is manipulative. I agree. All PUAs are manipulators. That's what sets us apart from the AFCs in the world. We KNOW how to flick all the right switches, and we intentionally set out with the intent of doing so. Whether your a DYD, MM, Natural Game, SS/NLP, or any other method of PUA, you leave nothing to chance. Getting "lucky" is for the AFCs and AMOG-wanna-bes of the world"

I had to quote this here....

Thoughts?
Author:  James The Third [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:31 pm ]
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First of all, in my opinion 90% of Mysterys and Styles theories are bullshit.

To answer your quote:

No. I don't agree.


"All PUAs are manipulators."

I am not a manipulator. I am an enticer. I entice women to do something they secretly want to do already (credits to 60 years of challenge). I'm not going to manipulate a girl that doesn't like me in to liking me. I'm going to walk away from her, or I'm going to escalate so fucking furiously on her, that she is going to fuck me whether she likes me or not.


"you leave nothing to chance."

YES - I do leave some things to chance. Some girls might just don't like me! The key is to accept that, and stop wasting time on those girls. To think you can get every women in the world is idiotic. The thing you can do, however, is to get from fucking every 50 girl you meet, to every 8 girl you meet. That's called minimizing chances of getting blown out. That's called good game.
Author:  overcome [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:17 pm ]
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Just because you use different words its still manipulation. SS is a choice, females can chose to except these commands. I think some of you guys are giving SS to much credit.

My2cents
Author:  Chelios [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:46 pm ]
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Nicely done, will look into this method.
Author:  jurupa [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:09 am ]
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Just because you use different words its still manipulation. SS is a choice, females can chose to except these commands. I think some of you guys are giving SS to much credit.

My2cents
SS taps more into the unconscious part of a girl than the conscious part of the brain. This make it a bit more difficult to choose to accept such commands.
Author:  AFC Royal [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:52 am ]
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Eh, I could go zen here but it's too late for me right now. Here's my answer.

SS can get girls creepy attached, which is why you should know what the hell you are doing before you do it. Of course, it can also be useful and really help people.

And about the discussion earlier... You entice, perhaps, but in that way you still manipulate things. People just dislike the word "manipulate" because it has ugly connotations. So I say fuck the connotations, and look at what it really means. NLP is just much more effective manipulation.

Go ahead and use it. You will only hurt yourself if you use it incorrectly.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:24 pm ]
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all social interaction is minipulation.

everyone is trying to get something out of everyone else.
Author:  James The Third [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:21 pm ]
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Well, I certainly disagree. But that discussion is probably better in another topic :)
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