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| Author: | Fireball [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I found a new way to overcome AA! |
I'd never approached a group of girls in my life, and I was terrified. I remember watching pickup videos on youtube and thinking there's no way I could ever approach a group of girls like that. I tried saying hello to random women as per the newbie mission, but it didn't seem to work. (Every single one of them just looked at me like I was weird.) The Method: So I broke the problem down to its 2 main components: There's the actual physical approach (going up to the target), and then there's the opener. It seemed that putting both of these together was doubling the "fear". So I gave myself an assignment: I would go to a club, find a group of girls sitting down somewhere, and then go sit next to them, or sit at their table. For the purpose of the exercise, the rest doesn't matter! Just go and sit down. I found that playing with my phone (e.g. pretending to text) helped me avoid feeling awkward. The Results: I went out and tried this for the last 2 nights. I found that nobody really gives a damn if you sit next to them. I was anticipating some sort of "who the hell are you" or "why are you sitting here", but for the most part, they just threw me a glance and then continued doing whatever they were doing. One group of girls opened to me after I sat down at their table. I was just pressing buttons on my phone, and one of them asked to see my necklace and asked if she could have it, while another grabbed my sunglasses. (Peacocking win! And yes I got all my stuff back! I also found that once I was sitting next to a girl, it was very easy to start talking to her. Granted, they mostly ignored me, and I kept running out of interesting things to say but that's a different problem altogether. (I expect that sitting down next to them without a word isn't the best way to approach, but that's not the point of the exercise.) It's also much easier to apply the 3-second rule using this exercise: A couple times I found myself walking by a group of girls, noticed a seat, and sat down without hesitation. I didn't have to think about whether the girls are pretty or not, what to say to them, which one to talk to, etc. I just sat down. After doing this for a while, I found that I really wasn't that afraid of approaching girls any more, after which I did some more straightforward approaches. Granted, I failed at those too, but it was the first time I'd ever been able to approach a girl at a club with an opener. Conclusion: I just wanted to share this with you guys. If you try it, good luck, and let me know if it works for you too! |
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| Author: | ChrisyRich [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:01 pm ] |
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Thank you, this is a very interesting post because it is a case study of situational openers and group dynamics. These indeed be a great way to introduce yourself to the wonderful world of pickup. |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:39 pm ] |
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Hilarious post Fireball;made me laugh my ass off the way you narrated it(lol). Thats some revolutionary stuff in getting rid of AA. If I'd still suffered from AA that much,this would definitely be the way to go just to make yourself comfort'. Seriously,if you'd have went into those sets with the intentions of approch & open,you would have C&B(crashed & burn)! I had to laugh too about the pretending to use your phone thing,because I do it all the time(lol)!! But the community or gurus advocates this. Instead of standing at the bar doing shit looking all weird & lonely,best to pretend to be texting,talking on the mobile or waving at some imaginary friends(lol). |
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| Author: | DR P [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:32 pm ] |
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DITTO! I did something similar to get over AA, when i was in the smoking area of clubs i used the opener 'my mates girlfriend kissed another girl', the response was GOOD to say the least, over 2 nights approached about 5-6 sets like this, 2 girls even kissed!! Next stage: working on attraction |
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| Author: | DR P [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:33 pm ] |
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DITTO! I did something similar to get over AA, when i was in the smoking area of clubs i used the opener 'my mates girlfriend kissed another girl', the response was GOOD to say the least, over 2 nights approached about 5-6 sets like this, 2 girls even kissed!! Next stage: working on attraction |
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| Author: | civilian [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:54 pm ] |
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Quote: Hilarious post Fireball;made me laugh my ass off the way you narrated it(lol).
TRUE, it doesnt matter what you open with...."you're always welcomed"
Thats some revolutionary stuff in getting rid of AA. If I'd still suffered from AA that much,this would definitely be the way to go just to make yourself comfort'. Seriously,if you'd have went into those sets with the intentions of approch & open,you would have C&B(crashed & burn)! I had to laugh too about the pretending to use your phone thing,because I do it all the time(lol)!! But the community or gurus advocates this. Instead of standing at the bar doing shit looking all weird & lonely,best to pretend to be texting,talking on the mobile or waving at some imaginary friends(lol). |
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| Author: | Fireball [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:59 pm ] |
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Hey, thanks guys. I have another hunch on something else: It seems that sleep deprivation may make you braver. I only got about 4 hours of sleep last night, and all of today I was in a kind of confused haze, but at the same time I had this "fuck it" attitude towards things, as in I feel like shit anyway, so fuck it I'm going to talk to this girl and I don't care what happens, and I chatted quite freely with several girls at work today. I expect that getting sleep deprived gives your whole "comfort zone" a good kick in the groin, and of course it's a well known fact that your comfort zone is your greatest enemy. Of course, this is all just a wild hypothesis at this stage. I might get around to doing some more substantial experimentation on this matter, and if I find anything I'll share with you guys. (Or if anyone else has any such experience, I'd be happy to hear about it!) Quote:
Seriously,if you'd have went into those sets with the intentions of approch & open,you would have C&B(crashed & burn)!
By the way k-loc, can you please explain what you mean by this? Are you saying that approaching and opening always results in a crash & burn?
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| Author: | Tripdogg5 [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:10 am ] |
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I disagree with k-loc, you wouldn't necessarily crash and burn if you had opened them. In this case is you just went and sat down, but for me I'd have to say something like "hey, guys" or "how's the night going?" before pretending to be on my phone, just to kinda kill the tension and acknowledge the group without actually opening them. But if it's been working ok for you so far, cool. |
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| Author: | Dr. Beat [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:21 am ] |
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Quote: Hey, thanks guys.
I absolutely agree with the bit about being sleep deprived. Usually that gets me into this loopy/giggly state where I absolutely don't give a shit about anything, because all my body cares about is being asleep.
I have another hunch on something else: It seems that sleep deprivation may make you braver. I only got about 4 hours of sleep last night, and all of today I was in a kind of confused haze, but at the same time I had this "fuck it" attitude towards things, as in I feel like shit anyway, so fuck it I'm going to talk to this girl and I don't care what happens, and I chatted quite freely with several girls at work today. I expect that getting sleep deprived gives your whole "comfort zone" a good kick in the groin, and of course it's a well known fact that your comfort zone is your greatest enemy. Of course, this is all just a wild hypothesis at this stage. I might get around to doing some more substantial experimentation on this matter, and if I find anything I'll share with you guys. (Or if anyone else has any such experience, I'd be happy to hear about it!) Quote:
Seriously,if you'd have went into those sets with the intentions of approch & open,you would have C&B(crashed & burn)!
By the way k-loc, can you please explain what you mean by this? Are you saying that approaching and opening always results in a crash & burn? |
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| Author: | NikoGR [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:25 pm ] |
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It's nice that this "sleep deprivation" state helped you out, but it should NOT NOT NOT be a habit for you. This is not a normal state, and should work to not be abnormal during pickup. Same goes for doing your best to not drink or be on drugs. |
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