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Author:  fierykido [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Problem on asking hb out, please help!
So theres this two girls whom i've know, one hb6 and one hb7. i know hb6 for two years and hb7 for since this year as my classmate. they both know each other

Recently i've been asking the two of them to hang out for a movie with a guy friend of mine. So one of them said after 4 days(she said she would reply asap, but i asked her again after 4 days without reply) that she cannot make it, the other one said she cant make it too cos the outing is weird as it consist of girls from different classes.B.S, they know each other.

after both said no, halfway texting hb6…


hb6:lol okay, go change it into some boys outing or something , haha.

me: okayy you not coming because no girls coming?(my sch girls have a strong herd mentality)

hb6: Not really, cause its kinda weird with your class girls going (we’re same class last year, but different this year.) and I am not sure whether my mum will let also. Haha.

Me:You havent been in touch with hb7? She not going probably because your class girls going, lols.

Hb6: Yeah, haven’t really chat to her recently.today actually suppose to hang out, I think she went, but I cant go. so yeah, and females from my class my class going?

Me:okay, no wonder hb7 cant come. I don’t think so( in reply to" females from my class my class going?"), since girls have herd mentality.(is it wrong here to talk about girls herd mentality?)

Hb6: lol I think its because hb7 have camp. That time i ask her, then she say maybe not going because of her camp.

Me: ok, so no girl from my class. (trying to show her that since no girls from my class going she should be comfortable)

Hb6: I am also not sure, she say she would see. She never tell you anything meh?

Me: Yeah she said she cannot come.

Hb6:ah okay, why are you so desperate to get girls to go?

me: Cool, im so desperate.(pretty pissed off now as i hated being called desperate)



Ok, my question, how would you reply in this situation as a pua?

How should I improve?? Any response is appreciated
Author:  Lucky D [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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As a PUa, or a non-deperate person: when she hesitated frm the begining, recognize that she didn't want to come. and say fuck off!

I'm just joking

say ok, continue with plans, if she doesnt wanna come, say you're going anyways
she asks with who? you're going with your friends, simple as that

But she called you desperate! Keep your cool, regardless!

You: lol desperate? just because i invite you out? lol i think someone knocked you on the head. anyways g2g peace

once she stats attacking your ego you say goodbye, she's wasting your time
Author:  Lucky D [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:57 pm ]
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As a PUa, or a non-deperate person: when she hesitated frm the begining, recognize that she didn't want to come. and say fuck off!

I'm just joking

say ok, continue with plans, if she doesnt wanna come, say you're going anyways
she asks with who? you're going with your friends, simple as that

But she called you desperate! Keep your cool, regardless!

You: lol desperate? just because i invite you out? lol i think someone knocked you on the head. anyways g2g peace

once she stats attacking your ego you say goodbye, she's wasting your time
Author:  breakology [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:49 pm ]
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you brought that upon yourself. you put the pussy on a pedestal and practically begged her to come.
Author:  fierykido [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:15 am ]
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Quote:
As a PUa, or a non-deperate person: when she hesitated frm the begining, recognize that she didn't want to come. and say fuck off!

I'm just joking

say ok, continue with plans, if she doesnt wanna come, say you're going anyways
she asks with who? you're going with your friends, simple as that

But she called you desperate! Keep your cool, regardless!

You: lol desperate? just because i invite you out? lol i think someone knocked you on the head. anyways g2g peace

once she stats attacking your ego you say goodbye, she's wasting your time
Thanks man! but when she attacks my ego, is she insecure? or is it shit test to find out whether im congruent?
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you brought that upon yourself. you put the pussy on a pedestal and practically begged her to come.
i did? can you point out how? im trying to learn as much as possible from all my interactions. :P
Author:  Lucky D [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:54 pm ]
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yeah you could say she was shit testing you, because it was an opportunity to show off your coolness (+), or demonstrate your neediness (-)

if she doesnt accept from the beginning then you say ok and you move on to another topic. You can't convince her to come by maneuvering through difficult terrain. In fact, she's more likely to come if you show her that you don't really care if she comes. You're inviting her because you think she would like it, not because you need her to be there. She's just a bonus to the event. An add-on.

Like Breakology was saying, you put her on a pedistle. You tried to hard to convince her to come. You mentioned "Girls" in each scentence, leading to her realizing that having girls at your event was an important factor. THE MAIN FACTOR. that creeped her out. It should have been subtle.

Examples of asking her out in a sublte way that says "this aint about me tryna hook up with you"

"what are you doing tomorow? cause I'm going to the flee market/ I was thinking of eating out/ I wanna go see a movie"

She says she's not sure? she says she's busy? ok move on to the next topic. You can go with someone else instead.
Author:  StanleyKowalski [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:52 am ]
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Never ASK girls to go, TELL them. Example: "Hey, let's go to a movie today. Meet me at 3...". Also, why do you want to go to the movies with them? If you want to fclose them, don't waste $ or set up dates. Get one of them to meet you (only 2 of you), visualize ahving sex with her WHILE you talk to her (sexual state) than wait until she reciprocates (they usually do). Now she's horny and girls love sex as much as us, so get her to your house ("I got a great new DVD let's go watch it"). Fclose.
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:27 am ]
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Reality check.. Sorry bro..


You Fail....... BAD......

You begged her and her hot friend to come with you, to a movie date no less. you used needy words, acted invested when they said no, texted too long, and you got called out on it. Then to boot they went out and CALLED you desparate.


It's a losers battle.

Do the EXACT opposite of what you did this time, next time.. focusing the oppositeness of the checklist above.
Author:  fierykido [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:02 am ]
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Thanks man, and all the time i thought i was doing it right! really appreciate all your response :D


mrcoffee999888, can i ask when did i get called out on it before they called me desperate?i can identify the rest, but i don't understand this.
Author:  zappo [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:38 am ]
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If you wanna hang with them you need to do it indirectly if your unsure whether they like you or not .

What i mean by indirectly is say something like " you should totally come gay shopping with me and whoever "

Probably ask what gay shopping is and you just say " its when guys shop for clothes , I could totally use a girls opinion on some clothes and you look pretty fashionable, It will be fun "

Bam she is more likely to say yeah ! and when you get to wherever your going just say after some time .. This is boring lets go get coffee or lets go watch a film !
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:52 pm ]
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She was playing with you the whole time.. She knew they couldn't/didn't want to go, and they could tell you were trying REALLY hard to get some girls to join.

You made it into a big deal, so thats when they get the herd mentality because no one really wants to go. And i wouldn't throw the "herd mentality" bit in anywhere if I were you..


Another note on texting.. You can use SOME shorthand, but make everything you say grammatically correct. make sure you are coming off as smarter, and higher value than the girls you're trying to get. begging them to come is needy. and will make almost every girl want to flake out.

Was this text game translated from a different language?
Author:  fierykido [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:42 pm ]
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Quote:
If you wanna hang with them you need to do it indirectly if your unsure whether they like you or not .

What i mean by indirectly is say something like " you should totally come gay shopping with me and whoever "

Probably ask what gay shopping is and you just say " its when guys shop for clothes , I could totally use a girls opinion on some clothes and you look pretty fashionable, It will be fun "

Bam she is more likely to say yeah ! and when you get to wherever your going just say after some time .. This is boring lets go get coffee or lets go watch a film !
nice idea! i would see how this goes. thanks for the response :D
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She was playing with you the whole time.. She knew they couldn't/didn't want to go, and they could tell you were trying REALLY hard to get some girls to join.

You made it into a big deal, so thats when they get the herd mentality because no one really wants to go. And i wouldn't throw the "herd mentality" bit in anywhere if I were you..


Another note on texting.. You can use SOME shorthand, but make everything you say grammatically correct. make sure you are coming off as smarter, and higher value than the girls you're trying to get. begging them to come is needy. and will make almost every girl want to flake out.

Was this text game translated from a different language?
thats why... thanks, i understand now. no it isn't, its our texting language at singapore, singlish.
Author:  Sorcerer [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:21 pm ]
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Hey fierykido, I might be a little late for this but I am sure it's great to know more views on this.

I am guessing you're either in Secondary or JC level. Honestly, the HBs you encountered are showing signs of insecurity, they are feel that they might be outcasts in that social meeting. My approach would have been to neg the target to lower her value, then DHL and perhaps throw in some NLP to persuade her to go for a cool social meeting if not she's uncool.

Good luck fierykido.
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