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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:39 pm ] |
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Sup people. It often happens when my friends DHV in obvious and arrogant ways that are meant to make me feel envious or something... I'll give you some scenarios I've had: Scenario #1 Me and my bud talk about night clubs and he says: - " So I was at that bar last night, and those girls I know, saw me and invited me to sit with them at the VIP area .... " - That's nice... (can't come up with something else to say at the moment) I just know that this dude hasn't done anything with those chicks anyway... Why is he bragging? Scenario #2 After working out in the gym, me and another bud, we walk home together. - So mate, where do you like to hang out? - " Me and my girlfriend are going to X place together..." - That's cool... (again...) And here - I simply know that this chick just plays him, they haven't even kissed yet. And he claims her as his GF for bragging rights, WTF? Another day I was with a group and we started talking about dating and that dude again mentioned his so called GF and he didn't forget to say that she is smoking hot. Well, I can't remember any more stories... You get the drift. My friends brag about girlfriends, money, cars , trips, going out etc... How am I supposed to turn down those annoying and insecure DHVs without being rude? I've read that you should simply validate them as if you're the one approving of their actions. That's what I'm doing now, but it doesn't feel right... Your thoughts on this guys? |
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| Author: | KristallNachte [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:26 pm ] |
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do some basic guy trash talk. "oh, what happened after you went to the VIP? oh..nothing? no kiss? wow dude, epic fail" |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:55 pm ] |
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Quote: Scenario #1
Scenario 1, he's tellingyou something interesting that happened to him, making general cnversation maybe?Me and my bud talk about night clubs and he says: - " So I was at that bar last night, and those girls I know, saw me and invited me to sit with them at the VIP area .... " - That's nice... (can't come up with something else to say at the moment) I just know that this dude hasn't done anything with those chicks anyway... Why is he bragging? Scenario #2 After working out in the gym, me and another bud, we walk home together. - So mate, where do you like to hang out? - " Me and my girlfriend are going to X place together..." - That's cool... (again...) Scenario 2, he's telling you him and his girlfriend are going there together to show they like it? |
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| Author: | Little Panda [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:31 pm ] |
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Dude, just tell him this. If he's talking about his "GF", just say Oh, when did it become official? You know, ask him nicely - don't be rude or anything. You're just making convo. That way he will be careful the next time he starts bragging because he knows you're gonna ask shit loads of questions. |
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| Author: | chickentika [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:49 pm ] |
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Ive had mates do this before and there generaly pretty cool so them bragging about all this shit gets annoying. You could frame what he's doing, -" So I was at that bar last night, and those girls I know, saw me and invited me to sit with them at the VIP area .... " -'dude you don't need to try and impress me, i already think your cool.' If you frame it like this he should be more reluctant to DHV again because, by DHVing he will just be playing into your frame of trying to impresse you, which would actually be a DLV. This has worked on my mates who do stuff like that. |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:22 am ] |
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Thanks. |
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| Author: | vibe112 [ Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:01 am ] |
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don't hang around with these douche bags. Friends come and go and people change. Don't hang on to buddies just because you've known them for x number of years. If your interests start changing start changing your friends because they will only hold you back. I learned this the hard way. |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:52 pm ] |
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Quote: don't hang around with these douche bags. Friends come and go and people change. Don't hang on to buddies just because you've known them for x number of years. If your interests start changing start changing your friends because they will only hold you back. I learned this the hard way.
Man, I can't agree more... This is exactly what's happening to me right now.I'm 18, and I'm into the game for half an year now and I did drastic changes in my personality. My understandings of social dynamics and life as general have been brought to a much more higher level and I'm always aware exactly what's going on. My friends... I've know them for 10 years, minimum! But I know understand them even better than before and their actions (or inaction) disturb me... They don't want me to succeed, they bring me down, their lives are dominated by delusions. There are guys I've met, that are older than me (26-31) we've know each other for 1-2 months and they prove to be much better company than my old "built-in" friends. |
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| Author: | TheMankind [ Sat May 01, 2010 1:31 am ] |
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Perhaps you lack communication, so he's looking for topics of converstaion, In that case I would recommend you to bring up interesting topics, Since like with women, people that try to impress you vibrate "tell me what to say or do, i'm hopeless without a topic from The leader" If you feel bad that he's Lower value and he's a good friend, Help him. That's ofcourse unless he's a burden.. If he weren't a friend, but someone you have to listen to like a boss or something, you should answer stuff like "Wow, fascinating, Tell me more" In a cold monotonic way, and nod three times or more when he starts talking back... He'll never do it again. such reaction is the biggest buzzkill, And it shows him you don't really give a damn hehe |
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| Author: | vibe112 [ Sat May 01, 2010 10:05 am ] |
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It is damn near impossible to get AFC friends into the game. If they not desperately asking for your help then it means they don't want to be helped. You can't convince someone who is set in their ways. They have to discover the game themselves and if they won't then leave them alone. They can spend the rest of their lives 'waiting for the right girl' to come along. I know this from first hand experience. My dream was to have my best friends as wingmen so that we could all have fun and enjoy the life. I thought we'd all find our dreamgirl, get married have children and hang out together. Our sons would grow up together also becoming close friends and repeating the process. THIS SHIT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN. Be selfish and just worry about your life and your family no need to be soo loyal to old friends. |
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| Author: | F_I_X_E_R [ Sat May 01, 2010 10:14 am ] |
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Quote: It is damn near impossible to get AFC friends into the game. If they not desperately asking for your help then it means they don't want to be helped. You can't convince someone who is set in their ways. They have to discover the game themselves and if they won't then leave them alone. They can spend the rest of their lives 'waiting for the right girl' to come along. I know this from first hand experience. My dream was to have my best friends as wingmen so that we could all have fun and enjoy the life. I thought we'd all find our dreamgirl, get married have children and hang out together. Our sons would grow up together also becoming close friends and repeating the process. THIS SHIT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN. Be selfish and just worry about your life and your family no need to be soo loyal to old friends.
Yes, you're rightI'll add two more scenarios: Scenario #3 I'm talking with a friend - "I have a new GF, and she's HOT (yeah, so hot that you'd better not tell anyone), You should take my advice on dating..." - Alright... I know this dude's game is AFC classic and that the girl calls the shots, but I kept quiet at the moment... Scenario #4 This is generally when my friends never forget to underline their achievements. - "Tell me who's name you see on the top list!" or - "We are the best!" OR Someone - You guys are great! *innocent compliment* - "Well for such a powerful trio, you can't say anything less!" As you guys see, I have hard time dealing with arrogance without hurting anyone or busting their balls. I hate situations where women claim to be superior to men... Such situations get on my nerves... I have the arguments and proof to make these girls cry... but I simply choose to remain quiet... Thanks for the above advice btw, But dealing with people's arrogance, self importance and insecurity is really annoying... |
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