PUA Forum :: how to tell she's single

So many attractive girls I've been talking to lately all have boyfriends. They either bring it up or I find out about it later on Facebook. FML. They say that bars/clubs aren't the only place to meet hot single girls. Yeah right...

So any tips on how to tell if a girl is single?

Also what is the best and fastest way to befriend hot girls who aren't single without making them think you're hitting on them.

Guys,am I missing something here?

WTF are you worrying about if she's single or not!!!?

Who gives a shit if she's single.

If she tells you she's taken,will you then abort the sarge based on that!!!?

I find that single girls are more stuck up to approach.

Plus,dont you know that women will often test guys by saying she's taken?

To see if you're a real man who'll plow forth or cower over becuse she's taken.

Guys,there's no such thing as a truely-single woman in 010.

So just proceed regardless and stop trying to single out the single chiccs.

I respect that Ataraxia.

Shit,I have a gf myself but we must be real here.

This' a powerful quote a natural once said to me few years ago.

"You can play the nice moral guy all you want and dont want to seduce taken girls. But believe me,other guys wont give a shit if your girl is taken-they'll still try hit on her."

That's powerful coming from guy who knows nothing of the community.

Point is;this is pic-up. Not a game of morals.

Having too many morals in this lifestyle is counterproductive.

Guys are savages out there who dont give a crap whether a guy's with his gf or not!

If a girl cheats on her bf,it wasnt meant to be.

If you're gaming a girl who's taken yet she still sleeps with you;well it wasnt meant to be.

Plus like I said;it's 2010,there's no such thing as a truely-single girl.

Either she has a secret bf she's not telling you about,or she's still screwing an ex,or she's dating multiple guys and laying them...

So whats the difference if she has an official bf? Nothing.

Author:	Mr. Metal [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:20 pm ]
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So many attractive girls I've been talking to lately all have boyfriends. They either bring it up or I find out about it later on Facebook. FML. They say that bars/clubs aren't the only place to meet hot single girls. Yeah right... So any tips on how to tell if a girl is single? Also what is the best and fastest way to befriend hot girls who aren't single without making them think you're hitting on them.

Author:	StreetLight [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:33 pm ]
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First off alll, you can't tell from the smell or the looks if she is single (unless she wears a ring off course, then she's not), you will HAVE to indulge in a conversation, second don't stop anyway, because there is a BIG chance their just saying it for you not to build any fantasies. and second... man this is SUCH a huge topic, all the MM is about indirect approach, and bdw, it's not always bad if a girl think you hit on her. But I get youre point, the key is human interaction (not inter sex interaction), just talk to her like you would with any human being that you want to befriend, but give her a chance to quilfy herself as well, you should not be the only one working to build attraction, she should try to build attraction in you for her as well, she needs to invest, thus you create faster attraction (both of you are working on it.. get it?)

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:50 pm ]
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Good response Streetlight. But my thing is,Mr. Mental,why the hell are you worrying whether they're single or not? This' 2010,there's no such thing as a single woman;or a truely-single woman. Even if a girl tells you she's single;she's still heavily involved with either an ex or multi-dating. She's getting laid regardless of being single. So for you to try single out the single girls is a waste of time!

Author:	ataraxia_88 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:41 am ]
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Ok, it's actually really easy to find out early Approach any girl or set. You can go direct or indirect (whatever you feel more comfortable). Use ANY opener. If she's very open and giving IOI's right off the bat, you can assume she's single, and run your game from there. If she responds negatively, or barely acknowledges you, just ASSUME she has a bf to get it out of her. Say something like "wow, how does your bf put up with you" with a cocky attitude and maybe a smile. You should get an answer from there. I'm not saying it's the best way to pick up a girl, but it's the fastest/easiest way to find out if she has a bf without directly asking (which is obviously AFC/creepy/predictable to ask before any comfort building)

Author:	jurupa [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:01 pm ]
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Quote: So many attractive girls I've been talking to lately all have boyfriends. They either bring it up or I find out about it later on Facebook. FML. They say that bars/clubs aren't the only place to meet hot single girls. Yeah right... And they are right, as bars/clubs are not the only place to meet hot single girls. A lot of hot girls do more than go to bars/clubs. Some actually go to concerts, the mall, etc etc. Hot girls even go and see the performing arts believe it or not. Quote: So any tips on how to tell if a girl is single? As ataraxia said, the more receptive a girl is to your approach the more likely she is single. Also if a girl is scooping out the room and trying to make eye contact with various guys she is most probably single. If a girl is also trying to draw attention to her self, ie talking loudly, wearing clothing aimed to get attention, she may also be single. This is kinda iffy as there are girls that are quite extroverted and such girls will show the same behavior. Quote: Also what is the best and fastest way to befriend hot girls who aren't single without making them think you're hitting on them. How do you make friends with guys?

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Author:	PUA Kenny [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:03 pm ]
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Guys,am I missing something here? WTF are you worrying about if she's single or not!!!? Who gives a shit if she's single. If she tells you she's taken,will you then abort the sarge based on that!!!? I find that single girls are more stuck up to approach. Plus,dont you know that women will often test guys by saying she's taken? To see if you're a real man who'll plow forth or cower over becuse she's taken. Guys,there's no such thing as a truely-single woman in 010. So just proceed regardless and stop trying to single out the single chiccs.

Author:	StreetLight [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:39 pm ]
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Quote: Guys,am I missing something here? WTF are you worrying about if she's single or not!!!? Who gives a shit if she's single. If she tells you she's taken,will you then abort the sarge based on that!!!? I find that single girls are more stuck up to approach. Plus,dont you know that women will often test guys by saying she's taken? To see if you're a real man who'll plow forth or cower over becuse she's taken. Guys,there's no such thing as a truely-single woman in 010. So just proceed regardless and stop trying to single out the single chiccs. EXACTLY

Author:	ataraxia_88 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:50 pm ]
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Quote: Guys,am I missing something here? WTF are you worrying about if she's single or not!!!? Who gives a shit if she's single. If she tells you she's taken,will you then abort the sarge based on that!!!? I find that single girls are more stuck up to approach. Plus,dont you know that women will often test guys by saying she's taken? To see if you're a real man who'll plow forth or cower over becuse she's taken. Guys,there's no such thing as a truely-single woman in 010. So just proceed regardless and stop trying to single out the single chiccs. "Real men" go after girls in relationships? I disagree. I'd like to think that most guys have (or should have) a mutual respect for eachother with regards to girlfriends. We're conditioning people to cheat. It's no wonder that divorce rates are as high as they are. With your logic, what's the point of being in a relationship?

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:53 pm ]
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I respect that Ataraxia. Shit,I have a gf myself but we must be real here. This' a powerful quote a natural once said to me few years ago. "You can play the nice moral guy all you want and dont want to seduce taken girls. But believe me,other guys wont give a shit if your girl is taken-they'll still try hit on her." That's powerful coming from guy who knows nothing of the community. Point is;this is pic-up. Not a game of morals. Having too many morals in this lifestyle is counterproductive. Guys are savages out there who dont give a crap whether a guy's with his gf or not! If a girl cheats on her bf,it wasnt meant to be. If you're gaming a girl who's taken yet she still sleeps with you;well it wasnt meant to be. Plus like I said;it's 2010,there's no such thing as a truely-single girl. Either she has a secret bf she's not telling you about,or she's still screwing an ex,or she's dating multiple guys and laying them... So whats the difference if she has an official bf? Nothing.

Author:	jurupa [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:14 pm ]
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Quote: I respect that Ataraxia. Shit,I have a gf myself but we must be real here. This' a powerful quote a natural once said to me few years ago. "You can play the nice moral guy all you want and dont want to seduce taken girls. But believe me,other guys wont give a shit if your girl is taken-they'll still try hit on her." That's powerful coming from guy who knows nothing of the community. Point is;this is pic-up. Not a game of morals. Having too many morals in this lifestyle is counterproductive. Guys are savages out there who dont give a crap whether a guy's with his gf or not! If a girl cheats on her bf,it wasnt meant to be. If you're gaming a girl who's taken yet she still sleeps with you;well it wasnt meant to be. Plus like I said;it's 2010,there's no such thing as a truely-single girl. Either she has a secret bf she's not telling you about,or she's still screwing an ex,or she's dating multiple guys and laying them... So whats the difference if she has an official bf? Nothing. Yes there are guys out there that don't care if a girl is in a real relationship or not. Those guys are only making things worse for guys like me that have a different set of morals. I am curious k-loc would you be okay if your girlfriend cheated on you? Would you cheat on your girlfriend? I am not trying to dictate what morals you should have as that is up to you. I am more just saying legitimizing cheating isn't going to do society any good, as pretty soon no one will be in actual relationships any more.

Author:	StreetLight [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 pm ]
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we actually have been trough the same topic here a few times pick up doesnt give you the ability to control minds. a girl that cheats cannot blalame the player who seduced her. Those girls that won't sleep with another guy, WONT SLEEP WITH ANOTHER guy

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:42 pm ]
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No I wouldnt want my girl to cheat on me. Im not advocating head hunting for taken women. Im just saying,if she's taken,yet allowing herself to be gamed by another guy to the point of sex. Then she isnt worthy of the guy she's with. But what are we gonna do,go to venues and try to screen out all the taken chiccs(lol)? Plus,no guy should be asking the girl he's gaming if she's single. If she doesnt bring up a bf in the chat(eventhough she has one),then he isnt of much worth to her. I guarantee 95% of the girls I'd f closed in my life had boyfriends(unknowing to me). So if on truely screens out all the taken girls in a venue,he'll be going home lonely every night(lol).

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