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Author:  the scamp [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  How to stop women's opinions mattering to you?
Hi folks,

Okay here's something that never really occurred to me until today, but I reckon it's a major sticking point of mine and is definitely affecting my game. Please give any feedback advice as it's majorly appreciated.

Okay so today I get this HB9 I know to come out and help me buy some shoes (my words "I need a Shoe pimp, I noticed you wore kick-ass wedges when we went out so I figure you know what you're talking about"). Arranged it a few days ago.

She loves shopping, and we went out for a drink a few weeks ago, so it's kinda a follow up.

Anyway she acts as a typical HB9 used to getting guys to do whatever she likes, but I reckon I don't act too AFC with her so we seem to get on.

Example. We arranged to meet in town at 11ish

Her Text (at 11.03) - "Hello, sorry I'm running a little late, just about to leave!! X"

My reply text (ten minutes later) - "hmmmm. sounds like I'm going to have to fire my latest personal shopping guru... ;)"

Good/bad?

Anyway, I 'm feeling pretty cocky funny and reckon I'm going to make good progress today. So while I'm waiting for little miss Sexy britches to show up I do a bit of shopping. I see a proper good Tee shirt I like, try it on, looks good so go to buy it.

So anyway there is one woman ahead of me in the queue, 2 girls serving (HB6 and an HB8.5) HB8.5 is about 19 and obviously has fuck all to do and is folding a jacket or some shit, she keeps making me wait so I'm trying to act all nonchalant.

EEEEventually she deigns to say "can I help" while making it fucking clear she cannot bear to even look me in the eye, like I'm not cool enough to shop at her store or some shit. She manages to fold my tee, put the card through etc (chip and pin) without ONCE acknowledging my presence and making FUCKING sure she doesn't once look me in the eye.

I'm like "WTF", but I do fuck all about it.

I try to get my mojo back by meeting the HB9 outside the store and kissing her on the cheek when she turns up (she is proper hot this girl, guys staring etc) Hoping the stuck-up HB8.5 will see.

My problem - This really pisses me off. Some 19 year old stuck-up bitch completely ruins my day. And makes me feel fucking small. I mean WTF! some teenager who works at a clothes store makes me feel like I'm unworthy or something.


Any help?
Author:  KristallNachte [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:37 pm ]
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here's how to solve the issue:

Step 1. Get Naked
Step 2. Get in Shower
Step 3. Thoroughly Clean Vagina
Step 4. Inspect Vagina for dirt and sand
Step 5. Repeat Step 3
Step 6. ???
Step 7. PROFIT
Author:  SeeCarios [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:25 pm ]
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repeat the above suggestion 2x a day.
Author:  kasabi [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:13 am ]
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You should make yourself a real life soap opera... "Dude's Shopping Day ruined by Evil shirt folding 19 year old Chick".

Why do you guys post crap that has nothing to do with pick up whatsoever? If I wanted to read shit like this, I'd go to

"Tuckyourpenisbetweenyourlegswhileyoucrylikeabitch.com"
Author:  KristallNachte [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:22 am ]
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thats not even a real website kasabi!!!
Author:  the scamp [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:25 am ]
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Lol, top advice dudes.

But I can't help feel you've missed the point. It IS about pick-up, it's about inner game.

The easy "little boy" way out is to justify to yourself (eg. she was stuck up, not my fault).

Manning up. You've got to break it down, it's all about Human interaction. I work in Sales so work with people everyday and calibration of interactions is my job.

Okay so i phrased the post above badly.

And it deserved your pithy "I'm more of a man than you" bullshit replies.

I should have ended the post with


"What would have been a good way to counteract the negativity of the situation?"

I reckon the best thing to do would have been to have acted as if i hadn't heard her and got her to raise her voice and engage in the interaction. Then I open with a big smile. DONE.


(ps. reading my first post back I do come across as a whining little bitch, fair play)
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:32 am ]
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Scamp I think you are getting a bit uptight besides over thinking this. So some 19 year girl gave you bad customer service. Why are you making it out like its a big deal? Its not. You allowed this girl to get to you and because of it you are blowing it up way bigger than it is.
Author:  the scamp [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:59 am ]
Post subject: 
Jurupa,

Fair play dude, Apologies fellow puas. will stop being such a whiney, little needy bitch.

Will post more constructive stuff
;)
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:37 pm ]
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dude maybe she hates her job, maybe she had a fight with her boyfriend yesterday , maybe her grandma died. or maybe .. maybe she was intimidated by your presence. maybe she was raped by men and now has some issues making eye contact , maybe she's lesbian as well.

anyway girls i've met in shops acting like bitches were actually nice people when i ran into them at clubs or pubs . When i was 16 or 17 i worked in a shop as well and i have to say i did not really cared about people - female attention or no female attention. There is a place to get IOI's from chicks ( if you care about IOI ) and those are public meeting places ( restaurants , clubs , pubs etc ).

people at work are in a different headspace , look at Construction workers when they are at work they don't even pay attention to woman walking/passing by, but when it's breaktime they whistle and look to every woman they see.

anyway you care what people think of you , this is one of the most common and self destructive mindsets to be in. you should pickup some material on social learning and social conditioning. Material that goes in depth concerning social conditioning is RSD blueprint decoded , or dr. phil life strategies. you can care about other people BUT you can't be superficial like you care what they think , caring what they think is not caring about that person but trying to get validation - being a value taker.

and stop that '' im feeling cocky and funny '' im cocky and funny '' jezus you either feel good or you don't , simple as that- everyone feels cocky and funny when they feel good.

next time someone does this kind of behaviour , what you can do is :

1. Do not give a fuck
2. Open up a convo about her job , give a compliment on how she folds clothes or how she runs around doing things. You can even say ''well i understand why you are grumpy, i wish you had a better job ''.
when people are negative you either let yourself be swallowed in that vortex of negativity or you stay positive.
Trying to ignore , ignoring on purpose is just giving attention - negative or positive it doesn't matter - like PUA do freeze out's to get control of their relationship because they want and'''they love''
it's advanced suplication , maybe if she was more polite you guys could had a postive and fun conversation - now she missed her chance to do it and she goes on with her boring job.
Author:  the scamp [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:55 pm ]
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Lodewijkp and Hobbit, cheers for the feedback guys. Very constructive.

Particularly liked the cartoon, very zen.


Am relatively new to forums etc, and am getting used to the dynamic.
Thought "Forum Leader" meant "bloke who runs this forum"

But it obviously means "people who spend more time projecting their own unhelpful opinions on others"

Wasn't Crystal night when the Nazi's started the Semetic purge?


"I'm warning you with Peace and Love"

Ringo Starr
Author:  Cock_roach [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:39 pm ]
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Don't combine your sense of value with what the girls do. You have to be more confident and regardless of girls' opinion. Don't treat picking up like a task, something like "I must do it", rather like a good fun, like you'll think: "Let's approach some girls and see what happens". The best way to achieve this way of thinking is... to practise more, take more approaches and have more fun with girls. Then, being rejected will seem natural and nothing toworry about. Use to it, you'll never be able to pick up any girl. You'll always loose some battles and it's completely normal.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:05 am ]
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Quote:
Am relatively new to forums etc, and am getting used to the dynamic.
Thought "Forum Leader" meant "bloke who runs this forum"
some people get to forum leader simply by posting lots of 'advice' but most of us get here by posting lots of good advice. if you're ever wondering about if a guy is credible or not, pop into the chat and ask about him.


fyi, I'm a Marine, so the response I gave you is typical in my line of work.
Author:  thebigtone [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:59 am ]
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Ok,

I'm with the majority.

Be a man, who gives a shit.
She is SERVING you, while your HB9 waits outside.

If your that fussed, be 'alpha'.

Take the piss out of her.
'Do I have to pay extra for a smile?'
and if she mouths off just laugh and say
'yeah i'd be annoyed if i was serving arseholes like me on a saturday afternoon while everyone else was out enjoying themselves'.

Or you could even try and sarge.

Give her a jokey neg or whatever and if she acts the arsehole then return the favour.

and just remember she hasn't got s**t on you.
Hurry up and serve me bitch, i got my HB9 outside is what you were thinking anyway!

Who cares about this idiiot!
Author:  jurupa [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:41 am ]
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Quote:
Jurupa,

Fair play dude, Apologies fellow puas. will stop being such a whiney, little needy bitch.

Will post more constructive stuff
;)
Why are you keep on apologizing? There is no needed for it. All you really had to do was own up to your actions, see what you could do to fix the issue and move on.
Author:  kasabi [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:38 am ]
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There are some issues with the OP but not in the way most of you think . . . His voice and his written words are of two different people.

If anything, he's quite congenial and lacks emotional rollercoastering. Definitely not the type to toss a hissy fit over a shirt folding employee, especially when a 9 is coming to see him later on . . . Scamp? How much of your OP is true? 50%? 10% 0? This is a simple anonymous forum and I know you're just dying to fess up. Go ahead, laugh and let us in on the joke. It's not that funny anyways . . .

Hobbit,

I understand your intentions but really . . . nothing good can come about by benchmarking a gold digger who heads off to the mines with a dildo instead of a picket. The goal isn't to be "left alone". The goal is to IMPROVE. That ditz left exactly the way she arrived, sad, lonely, and a poor-intentioned liar.
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