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Author:  Mr. Metal [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  how do you turn IODs into IOIs?

"Make the ho say no". In other words, you're supposed to stay in a set regardless of how shitty it's going until she tells or hints at you to gtfo.

So say you're getting some IODs (for example, she adjusts her shirt so that her exposed midriff is no longer exposed, buttons her blouse, etc). This is where I usually start thinking "Whoops. I fucked up. My strong, confident frame is gone. I'm getting nervous and perhaps even a touch desperate. It's not gonna get better. Better bail..."

How would you turn IODs into IOIs? I think I'm basing my game too much on perceived value. If she's still talking to me, I probably still pass her value requirements. I'm guessing I'm just not being sexual enough and not getting her turned on?

By the way my eyes tend to wander down to her tits even though I know that that's a death trap. It's not even a prolonged stare. My eyes just dart down and back up to her eyes in the duration of a blink. I think it's an unconscious thing.

Author:  Apollo45 [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:58 pm ]
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Yeah but thats all it takes is her to notice once. Some women put up a shield as soon as they see you do something like that I've made the same mistake before (commented on a girls shorts being really short). But it all depends on the girl I'd say hold eye contact and don't assume If she catches you all hope is lost. I ended up talking to the same girl for 15 minutes after that and got her number.

Author:  chickentika [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:31 pm ]
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If your getting IODs your not generating enough attraction, you may be opening the set in a way witch makes you seem low value.

IOIs will come when you have openend well.

Experiment- Try different openers, see what responces you get. idealy you should disqualify soon after you open.

After you open run DHV and Neg the target when you do engage the target if your still not getting IOIs just run more attraction.

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