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Author:  Tebu [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Need help compiling a list.
I know between us we would have read a vast amount of material, and we've filtered out the useful from useless information. So what I'm hoping is you'll help me make a list of sexually appealing, "attractive" body language details. More on the animalistic side of things that's subconscious for the "naturals". I'll include voice tone and anything else closely related. Just everything physical. This is all I can think of so far, please add to this:

Straight posture (don't slouch)
Shoulders back/head up
Open body (not crossed arms)
Wide stance
Look cheerful
Hold eye contact to show you're not intimidated
But don't stare (creepy)
I heard something about "triangular gazing" if someone can explain.
Kino (touching) If someone can go into detail with this. Just a few points.
Deeper louder voice


I'm sure there's much more. Thanks for the help! (in advance).
Author:  Miss Babylon [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:02 am ]
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I believe triangular gazing is when you deliberately look at her left eye, then right eye then lips. It indicates an intention to kiss.
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:34 am ]
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Pacing is a technique that is relatively important.

Essentially, you try to mirror some of the minute characteristics in both body language, speech tone, and speech speed.

2.)
going along with posture, never lean in, display needy behavior as far as body language.
-when sitting, always lean back
-when standing in set, body rock, and never lean in to talk.

3.)
Always show (non-verbally) a willingness to walk away

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Crash Course in Kino:

Kino should start almost immediately after the open, even if it is just a elbow nudge, a high five, a flick to the ear, or anything to get the target comfortable with your touch.

This Kino escalation has to remain constant, and perpetually escalate throughout the interaction, as it is a vital part of preparation for the k-close. The more you can touch the better, in whatever way possible. (obviously don't be a creeper), but hair, shoulder, hands are good spots to Kino. there are a number of routines that can aid in getting this kino to flow smoothly.
Author:  Tebu [ Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:58 pm ]
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1.)
Pacing is a technique that is relatively important.

Essentially, you try to mirror some of the minute characteristics in both body language, speech tone, and speech speed.

2.)
going along with posture, never lean in, display needy behavior as far as body language.
-when sitting, always lean back
-when standing in set, body rock, and never lean in to talk.

3.)
Always show (non-verbally) a willingness to walk away

===========

Crash Course in Kino:

Kino should start almost immediately after the open, even if it is just a elbow nudge, a high five, a flick to the ear, or anything to get the target comfortable with your touch.

This Kino escalation has to remain constant, and perpetually escalate throughout the interaction, as it is a vital part of preparation for the k-close. The more you can touch the better, in whatever way possible. (obviously don't be a creeper), but hair, shoulder, hands are good spots to Kino. there are a number of routines that can aid in getting this kino to flow smoothly.
Thanks for this large contribution! So I'll add mirroring (speech & body), which I have heard of, I'd like to hear about people's experiences using these details. You know, just how much of a difference it might make. Also subtle signs of disinterest? Which is how I read leaning back and the willingness to leave. The kino info helping, I constantly forget it's importance. I honestly don't remember touching women I interact with at all. Do you have tips for making it seem more natural if you're not a "touchy" kind of person?
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I believe triangular gazing is when you deliberately look at her left eye, then right eye then lips. It indicates an intention to kiss.
Thanks for clearing this up for me miss. If someone does this to you how do you feel?
Author:  Onoma [ Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:11 pm ]
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body rock
Not sure what you mean by this...?
Author:  Miss Babylon [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:58 am ]
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If triangular gazing is used on me (which it hardly ever is, we don't get many PUAs in my city) and I like the guy, then it immediately makes me think of kissing and sex. During the eye contact, it would be important for me to feel a connection to the guy. Don't hurry triangular gazing, its a statement of intention to make out. If a girl is responsive to your non-verbal suggestion of making out, she will probably glance at your lips in return.

If you're not sure how to start kino, I really like a little neg like pretending to pick something out of her hair or off her shoulder and flash her a smile. High fives are always a winner. You can turn a high 5 into lasting contact if you link fingers during it and tell her to spin around. If she was sitting down at the time, you can steal her seat or you can spin her into your body for a little bit of prolonged contact before spinning her out again. (A PUA I know takes Salsa dancing classes, which really helps with this - women will usually follow your lead if you're confident enough.)

Whatever you do, don't mess up her hair. :)
Author:  DboTheHero [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:53 am ]
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This is a good idea for a thread, thanks for putting it together!

I've mainly commented so I can keep up to date with this thread so sorry I haven't got much input.

One thing I would say is to smile. It may seem obvious but it's not listed on here, and it makes you seem approachable and friendly.

~Deebo
Author:  Tebu [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:19 pm ]
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If triangular gazing is used on me (which it hardly ever is, we don't get many PUAs in my city) and I like the guy, then it immediately makes me think of kissing and sex. During the eye contact, it would be important for me to feel a connection to the guy. Don't hurry triangular gazing, its a statement of intention to make out. If a girl is responsive to your non-verbal suggestion of making out, she will probably glance at your lips in return.

If you're not sure how to start kino, I really like a little neg like pretending to pick something out of her hair or off her shoulder and flash her a smile. High fives are always a winner. You can turn a high 5 into lasting contact if you link fingers during it and tell her to spin around. If she was sitting down at the time, you can steal her seat or you can spin her into your body for a little bit of prolonged contact before spinning her out again. (A PUA I know takes Salsa dancing classes, which really helps with this - women will usually follow your lead if you're confident enough.)

Whatever you do, don't mess up her hair. :)
This has been most interesting to know. Such a simple thing can make you think of sex, without any verbal cue. I'm keen to do it now. So about pretending to pick something out of her hair, what if she knows there was nothing there? I'm not one of those high five kind of people (should I be?) but what other kinds of reasons can I use to touch her? As I mentioned, I don't often touch people. You can tell I'm intrigued! :)

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This is a good idea for a thread, thanks for putting it together!

I've mainly commented so I can keep up to date with this thread so sorry I haven't got much input.

One thing I would say is to smile. It may seem obvious but it's not listed on here, and it makes you seem approachable and friendly.

~Deebo
Well I was sure others were curious too. So I'm hoping this helps quite a few people. If we can bring all our knowledge together. Smiling would come under the "look cheerful" point I posted. But it's better to elaborate. I love the quote in your signature by the way. I remember the first time I heard it, staying in my head for quite a while.
Author:  Jav [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:31 pm ]
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Too bad you can barely control anything sub concious, like body language.


You can try to force those behaviours, but they won't last.

How to achieve killer body language:

go meet women, fool with them, fool with enough women and you'll automaticly attain that laid-back body language, as fooling with women is something you do often and not a big thing anymore.

You keep building yourself like that till you achieve what you want to.

Kino takes practice, with that practice comes calibration, when to do it, where to do it.

Pick-up is very much like body building, You can't expect to get killer abs by just thinking of them (it might help as motivation though). The only way to get killer abs is by working out alot. Same with your social muscle.
Author:  Tebu [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Too bad you can barely control anything sub concious, like body language.
You can change them consciously until they become natural.
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:46 pm ]
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body rock
Not sure what you mean by this...?
When you're in set you should try to avoid leaning IN as much as possible, but sometimes, especially in high energy loud venues, you kind of have to to be heard.

I interpret body rock to mean that, in your opener or most simply A1/A2, around the time that you deliver your FTC, take like a 1/4 of a step backwards with your left foot, and then shift your weight to that foot like you might turn around to walk away, and then kind of make sure to lean out after you deliver the first couple lines. This helps because you don't come off as that guy who is just locked into the set, that they HAVE to talk to, and I've noticed that it's immediate that they tell me to stay, or non-verbally give me an IOI.

just a conscious way to remember good/non-needy alpha body language.
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