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| Author: | Fin [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Method is the only method there is |
Quote: Mystery Method is the only method.
That's some impressive gymnastics. The other methods are simply mimicing or revolving around the mystery method, however they just focus on a specific part of it. Direct Game: this is just the part of the mystery method where we offer IOI's and SOI's back to the girl so they feel like they are making a worthwhile investment in you and its not all chase for them. Also includes seduction stage and sexual framing which MM uses. Natural Game Is what someone using MM develops after opening frequent sets so that they dont get crippled by aproach anxiety, and they learn to feel comfortable in sets. They also learn to not just use canned lines but natural 'on the spot' negs the better they get. Natural gamers also claim to follow no methods, so it must just be natural converstaion? which is also known as comfort stage and fluffing. Seduction Methods well seduction and sexual framing is the next section of the mystery method after attraction and comfort are tweaked right. So theres nothing new here. Only exception might be ross jeffries, but lots of people implement his technique into the seduction stages of the MM anyway. But I'm not buying it at all. |
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| Author: | Truncheon [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:51 pm ] |
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I agree with Fin. The mystery method is old, however for some guys its still efficient these days. Personally i don't believe in the Mystery Method nor will i ever do. I've read The Game as 90% of the guys here on the forum, did i find it impressive or did i learn something, make that a big NO. Hence, what are you trying to write down here that your a ethernal fanboy of the mm? |
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| Author: | Jav [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:29 pm ] |
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Do you wear fuzzy hats? |
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| Author: | The Doctor [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:15 am ] |
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This thread makes me lol. Anyone who claims any method is the best or the be all end all is being silly. The only thing which everyone agrees is a good foundation for every method (or lack of method) is "inner game". (interestingly though there are several methods for developing inner game... but thats another topic :-p ) All the rest is personal style and opinion... yes some are more effective then others for different things... but its all just personal style. |
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| Author: | Smartbomb [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:35 pm ] |
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90% of the "methods" out there are the same idea - confidence, touching, negs, playful-cocky blah blah blah. The only thing that's different is the spin that someone puts on it. Calling routines and phases of attraction by different words does not make a style of pickup unique. Frankly, I only see there being two styles - the hypnotic/NLP style like Ross Jeffries and his followers and the playful-cocky styles like Mystery, Style, etc. People like Mystery are popular because they put names to a lot of otherwise nebulous concepts. He has also reduced pickup to a Dungeon's and Dragon's-style rulebook that is easily understood by other geeks like him (not being harsh - he'll admit he was a geek). "I got shot down by HB who says she 'has a boyfriend'? I'll just whip out my Level 10 Boyfriend Destroyer" |
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:18 pm ] |
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Like OMG!1!1! Mystery method is just sooooooo amazoing@!@!!! Okay, for serious, get real. Stop hugging Mysterys nuts. |
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| Author: | rhukkas [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:17 pm ] |
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Quote: I agree with Fin.
You've fallen into the same trap of the people you mock as 'fanboys'.The mystery method is old, however for some guys its still efficient these days. Personally i don't believe in the Mystery Method nor will i ever do. I've read The Game as 90% of the guys here on the forum, did i find it impressive or did i learn something, make that a big NO. Hence, what are you trying to write down here that your a ethernal fanboy of the mm? Totally rejecting the concept of MM and saying you didn't learn anything is no different to being a MM fanboy. You're one of the same. MM isn't new anyway. It's a bunch of ideas men have been using for generations with or without knowing it. I gamed a girl when I was a younger man. At the time I had no idea about methods or PUA. Looking back some of it was classic 'MM' or what I called in the day 'The Rules' which I adhered too. Either way the point is that MM isn't something to be rejected nor worshipped. What Mystery did so fantastically well was bring ideas together and make them marketable and fun! Nothing more nothing less. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:09 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: I agree with Fin.
You've fallen into the same trap of the people you mock as 'fanboys'.The mystery method is old, however for some guys its still efficient these days. Personally i don't believe in the Mystery Method nor will i ever do. I've read The Game as 90% of the guys here on the forum, did i find it impressive or did i learn something, make that a big NO. Hence, what are you trying to write down here that your a ethernal fanboy of the mm? Totally rejecting the concept of MM and saying you didn't learn anything is no different to being a MM fanboy. You're one of the same. MM isn't new anyway. It's a bunch of ideas men have been using for generations with or without knowing it. I gamed a girl when I was a younger man. At the time I had no idea about methods or PUA. Looking back some of it was classic 'MM' or what I called in the day 'The Rules' which I adhered too. Either way the point is that MM isn't something to be rejected nor worshipped. What Mystery did so fantastically well was bring ideas together and make them marketable and fun! Nothing more nothing less. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 pm ] |
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There are as many methods as there are PUAs. Anyone claiming that they are using exactly the method they were taught without modifications is still a rAFC. Explanation: To mindlessly follow a method is stupid, something you do when you dont know what you are doing. To not mindlessly following a method means that you are developing your own game, more or less based on a number of methods. |
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| Author: | madals [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:07 am ] |
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I have only one method: My method. You should only have one method: Your method Listen to everyone and think about what they say, if it is useful, use it to improve yourself - not to completely change yourself. |
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| Author: | Buz [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:18 am ] |
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Quote: I have only one method: My method.
I agree, however i always have the M3 Model in my head, the model seems pretty sound (for me anyway) A1-A3, Open, Female to Male interest, THEN male to female interest. It may sound silly, but that was a "lightbulb moment" for me.
You should only have one method: Your method Listen to everyone and think about what they say, if it is useful, use it to improve yourself - not to completely change yourself. |
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| Author: | The_Boss_ [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:26 am ] |
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Quote: Quote:
I agree, however i always have the M3 Model in my head, the model seems pretty sound (for me anyway) A1-A3, Open, Female to Male interest, THEN male to female interest. It may sound silly, but that was a "lightbulb moment" for me. I lol at people who say they only use natural or seduction methods of pick up. You have all obviously read the MM and adapt your new methods from the MM, just like Buz said he does for example. dont deny it. And if you havent read MM yet, I highly recommend it!!!!! |
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| Author: | madals [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:03 pm ] |
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I lol at people who say they only use natural or seduction methods of pick up. You have all obviously read the MM and adapt your new methods from the MM, just like Buz said he does for example. dont deny it.
So what did I do before I even knew what PUA was? And if you havent read MM yet, I highly recommend it!!!!! But yes, I have read the MM and I probably have adapted my method to have some of the ideas from it. But that isn't what your topic is about, you stated "The MM is the only method" |
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| Author: | The_Boss_ [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:21 pm ] |
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So what did I do before I even knew what PUA was?
well thats why i lol at them coz they mustnt of been very good UNTIL they learn what PUA was, AKA mystery method
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| Author: | Pimpin aint easy [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:47 pm ] |
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Recently I read the "pickup artist" which is an updated and supposedly evolved version of the mystery method by mystery. love systems is still way more evolved then them. Guys sometimes argue that the mystery method is more solid and show how other systems fit within the model. Their argument is that it must be the best model if all else falls into it. The problem is that mystery didn't invent the model. The model is basically how it works but it isn't linear and the way they teach it in the mystery method from the mindsets, to the rules, to many of the outlooks just takes any chance a guy has to have inner game with women and butchers it. Mystery belongs in a mental institution and he has been there in the past. Reading his book you can clearly understand why during parts of it. This man is not right. He is gifted with some very great talents and put a lot of time into the art of magic but he is not a good role model to learn from and not the way a guy should go to improve his success. At best you can steal some lines and come off cooler than you are for a while and trick some girls into bed. |
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