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Author:  Anakin_FlyTalKer [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  So I let her borrow my pen....
Yeah so Im chilling waiting for my class, girl comes up to me and ask me for a pen, she she will be back in like an hour in a half or so......Now I kind of already know what im going to say, but I'm open to any advice.
Author:  Ispirato [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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"why, are you going to write down your number?"
Author:  Little Panda [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:17 pm ]
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"why, are you going to write down your number?"
"I don't know you that well, sorry". And you're out.

K-MAC, you don't need a killer-opener for this. When she gets back, something simple like "Hm, that took you a while. What were you doing to my pen for so long?! Look, it's sad... Did you molest it or something, you little pervert?"

Of course, don't say that unless it's not your style of talking. I would consider MYSELF as rather immature and that would be something that I would say.

But you get my point.
Author:  Ispirato [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:32 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
"why, are you going to write down your number?"
"I don't know you that well, sorry".
"So what made you think i'd give it to you"

haha, i get your point man, but for me it wouldn't end there :)
Author:  Ispirato [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:38 pm ]
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K-MAC, you don't need a killer-opener for this. When she gets back, something simple like "Hm, that took you a while. What were you doing to my pen for so long?! Look, it's sad... Did you molest it or something, you little pervert?"
Q- What was her motive for asking for it?

Lets just say she really needed your pen and she came back with it, what you say after might just enduce a smile and she would probably move on with the rest of her day.

Now if it was a shit test, you think she is coming back?
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:18 pm ]
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False takeaways are soooo overused.

Its like you dont actually have to do it all the time. The thing is that you shouldnt go out of your way to help this one girl just because you are gonna hit on her. You should just treat her like any random person. And that is in a night game pickup situation when you just opened the set.

Asking for a pen is a completely normal request and you have probably been known to need a pen as well.

Asking if shes gonna write down your number is a bad idea. You adress the question if there is an attraction between the two of you. A false disqualifier is meant to remove that thought so you end up at zero.

Why not just go for the cocky funny answer.

HB: Do you have a pen.
Ezo: Sure, you should start wearing a pen too, it would look good on you.
Author:  Ispirato [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:36 pm ]
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Im new to the pua world, so i dont even know what false disqualifiers or false takeaways are. but what you said Ezo makes sense anyways.

I got some reading to do, so i know whats going on round these parts:)
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:50 pm ]
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Dont worry man, youll get the hang of it! Welcome to the start of your new life! And Good Luck man!!! :)
Author:  TobiTobi [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:50 pm ]
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Ezo how would something like :
Girl: "Do you have a pen?"
Tobi: "Yeah, and I ll let you use it to write me down your number :)"
work?
Author:  Anakin_FlyTalKer [ Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:54 am ]
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Yeah I ended up not even sayng anything, because she came in the middle of my convo, and I really didn't even think much of her handing it back till she walked away......I'm sure she was interested I mean you could have not given my pen back...
Maybe next time I see her.
Author:  Ezo [ Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:41 pm ]
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Ezo how would something like :
Girl: "Do you have a pen?"
Tobi: "Yeah, and I ll let you use it to write me down your number "
work?
Now this is hypotethically of course since I havent actually tried it out, I usually just hand her the pen and keep doing what Im doing.

I dont think it would work either. The reasons being:

You "try" to numberclose first thing you do. Ok, not a real try but you bring up the topic.

You show that you want something from her and that is not really good.


Unless you are doing natural game of course but I think that the OP would have stated if he got great IOIs and stuff...

Natural game... I mean of course if he had demonstrated enough value to go for the close immediately.
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