PUA Forum :: THE PROBLEMS OF BEING VERY TALL...WE NEED NEW STRATEGIES!!

Been casually reading seduction stuff for a number of years now and am now beginning to try and change my life. As a very tall guy over 6'5 (6'6.5 to be exact) I have found very little published theory on addressing the challenges that this stature brings. I think physical extremes will always need very specific strategies.

Some thoughts on being very tall:

Advantages:

Gives off an alpha, first impression.
Makes you stand out from the crowd.
Allows you to spot the babes easily.
can be physically attractive.

Disadvantages:

The double edged sword that is standing out so early on is that, AFC habits will be spotted VERY quickly on a bad day, slouchiness, unhappy facial expressions, fidgety..disasterous set openings etc. There is sometimes nowhere to hide or blend in! And all other problems are thus magnified. My friends can try it on with ten girls sequentially as they rarely get spotted failing. I am blessed with fewer chances.

Kino: This is the single biggest problem that I have faced...when stood up with HB, it is very hard for me to speak intimately into their ear in a bar without slouching down and in turn looking really keen and supplicating thus loosing alpha status. It is just like there is this huge uncomfortable vertical space between us.
Smaller guys can stand intimately close to a girl, whilst keeping excellent posture, confiding in her ear, arms comfortably around her whilst STILL seaming disinterested. Large height differences in general make Kino more tricky and for this reason taller girls are easier for me to seduce all around. This issue then extends to kissing, which sometimes is close to impossible for me, if the girl is unwilling to put large effort in (which is very rare for an HB-8 and above), and generally just physically awkward to be honest and not as enjoyable as it should be. Again guys without such height differentials can just grab one of these more resistant girls and kiss them with no complex docking procedure in one smooth manouever! (Again, I can do this easily with tall girls). I know these issues play out in the girl's mind's as sometimes the second we are walking up stairs or an esculator (and hence at Equal height temporarily) she will immediately start kissing me!! Dancing sexily is also hard as good dance partners should not be to dissimilar in height, a reason why I hate clubs. Maybe you have some solutions to this?

Intimidation. I think some girls find my height scary..This is not a big complaint though, as you can win them around with enough charm and gentle Kino. Often in a seated environment, girls are hugely into me (I have a HG-8 face), yet when I stand up and a taller than everyone else...they seem to lose interest or seem shocked....''oh my god..I never realized you are so tall?''...It becomes an issue.

Solutions:

I think I have become a little confused with which strategy to play..overcome the intimidation factor by playing against your size: being gentle and caring not overemphasising body movements and don't come across scary like an alpha-bear to a small girl. OR, instead, act proportional to my height..in the sense of being ULTRA alpha: standing a big ground, big movements, bear hugs, lots of energy...larger than life. Despite scaring some girls, I think this overcomes the issues of kino...(IE picking girls up off the floor, grabbing them like slaves works) is congruent with being alpha and gets even more attention whilst fending off AMOGS. In essence: If you're big, you NEED to act big and not be in any sense apologetic. This is how Rugby players and NFL players act on nights out , and HB-8s+ become willing to make the effort to overcome kino difficulties.

Author:	tallguy2233 [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:	THE PROBLEMS OF BEING VERY TALL...WE NEED NEW STRATEGIES!!
Hiya Guys, Been casually reading seduction stuff for a number of years now and am now beginning to try and change my life. As a very tall guy over 6'5 (6'6.5 to be exact) I have found very little published theory on addressing the challenges that this stature brings. I think physical extremes will always need very specific strategies. Some thoughts on being very tall: Advantages: Gives off an alpha, first impression. Makes you stand out from the crowd. Allows you to spot the babes easily. can be physically attractive. Disadvantages: The double edged sword that is standing out so early on is that, AFC habits will be spotted VERY quickly on a bad day, slouchiness, unhappy facial expressions, fidgety..disasterous set openings etc. There is sometimes nowhere to hide or blend in! And all other problems are thus magnified. My friends can try it on with ten girls sequentially as they rarely get spotted failing. I am blessed with fewer chances. Kino: This is the single biggest problem that I have faced...when stood up with HB, it is very hard for me to speak intimately into their ear in a bar without slouching down and in turn looking really keen and supplicating thus loosing alpha status. It is just like there is this huge uncomfortable vertical space between us. Smaller guys can stand intimately close to a girl, whilst keeping excellent posture, confiding in her ear, arms comfortably around her whilst STILL seaming disinterested. Large height differences in general make Kino more tricky and for this reason taller girls are easier for me to seduce all around. This issue then extends to kissing, which sometimes is close to impossible for me, if the girl is unwilling to put large effort in (which is very rare for an HB-8 and above), and generally just physically awkward to be honest and not as enjoyable as it should be. Again guys without such height differentials can just grab one of these more resistant girls and kiss them with no complex docking procedure in one smooth manouever! (Again, I can do this easily with tall girls). I know these issues play out in the girl's mind's as sometimes the second we are walking up stairs or an esculator (and hence at Equal height temporarily) she will immediately start kissing me!! Dancing sexily is also hard as good dance partners should not be to dissimilar in height, a reason why I hate clubs. Maybe you have some solutions to this? Intimidation. I think some girls find my height scary..This is not a big complaint though, as you can win them around with enough charm and gentle Kino. Often in a seated environment, girls are hugely into me (I have a HG-8 face), yet when I stand up and a taller than everyone else...they seem to lose interest or seem shocked....''oh my god..I never realized you are so tall?''...It becomes an issue. Solutions: I think I have become a little confused with which strategy to play..overcome the intimidation factor by playing against your size: being gentle and caring not overemphasising body movements and don't come across scary like an alpha-bear to a small girl. OR, instead, act proportional to my height..in the sense of being ULTRA alpha: standing a big ground, big movements, bear hugs, lots of energy...larger than life. Despite scaring some girls, I think this overcomes the issues of kino...(IE picking girls up off the floor, grabbing them like slaves works) is congruent with being alpha and gets even more attention whilst fending off AMOGS. In essence: If you're big, you NEED to act big and not be in any sense apologetic. This is how Rugby players and NFL players act on nights out , and HB-8s+ become willing to make the effort to overcome kino difficulties. Your views would be great, especially on the issues of Kino. I hope at some point to develop a manual for the very tall with solutions to some of these issues. I think we can all agree that there is not a worse sight in field than a tall slouching drip on a dance floor, alone, dancing out of time, and completely out of place. Best, tallguy2233

Author:	Ezo [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:50 pm ]
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Mystery is tall yet he is the number one guy people start learning from...

Author:	tallguy2233 [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:56 pm ]
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Quote: Mystery is tall yet he is the number one guy people start learning from... These issues are REAL. And Mystery's lack of commentary on this issue is what mystifies me. I think the classically advantageous height for a PUA is 6'1. Tall, yet with no complications.

Author:	bluethunder373 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:42 am ]
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umm chill the fuck out bro the afc attitude is worrying that much about something like this

Author:	Prince_ [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:11 am ]
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if you dont care about it then nobody else will. if it draws attention to you then dont slouch and be sad, think of it as your personal type of peakocking.

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Author:	Ezo [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:35 pm ]
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The reason Mystery doesnt comment on it is because it isnt a problem for him. The rest of his game is tight enough to compensate for that. What do you think the rest of us are doing? Do you think that we are perfect beings? We all compensate for something. We all have weaknesses, some of us have physical appearance problems and some of us have inner problems. Should we just give up? No, we develop our game far enough to not care about our problems. We change what we can and accept what we cant. Being too tall cannot possibly be the a problem making it impossible to run normal game.

Author:	Jav [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:06 pm ]
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You're gonna fail nonetheless being tall or tiny, no difference. You can pretend you're a tree though, But if height really was an issue some PU guru would've already came up with something to counter it. PSSSHHHT, are you sure you're not using your height as an excuse to not do things?

Author:	jurupa [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:09 pm ]
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Quote: Mystery is tall yet he is the number one guy people start learning from... Uh isn't Mystery 6'3"? If so he isn't exactly tall.

Author:	jurupa [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: THE PROBLEMS OF BEING VERY TALL...WE NEED NEW STRATEGIES
Quote: Been casually reading seduction stuff for a number of years now and am now beginning to try and change my life. As a very tall guy over 6'5 (6'6.5 to be exact) I have found very little published theory on addressing the challenges that this stature brings. I think physical extremes will always need very specific strategies. Um dude, your not "very tall". Very tall is above 7'0". Being almost 6'6" is just being tall or in my book average height. And if you have trouble gaming because of your height then you have loads of problems to deal with. Because I have no problems gaming with my height and I am 6'6" tall. Quote: Some thoughts on being very tall: Advantages: Gives off an alpha, first impression. Makes you stand out from the crowd. Allows you to spot the babes easily. can be physically attractive. You also forgot the following: More social power Greater income Quote: Disadvantages: The double edged sword that is standing out so early on is that, AFC habits will be spotted VERY quickly on a bad day, slouchiness, unhappy facial expressions, fidgety..disasterous set openings etc. There is sometimes nowhere to hide or blend in! And all other problems are thus magnified. My friends can try it on with ten girls sequentially as they rarely get spotted failing. I am blessed with fewer chances. Guess what AFC behavior will be spotted quickly on a shorter guy as well. Yes being tall will make such behavior more noticeable, but not by that much tho. And we can blend in, you just need to know how. Quote: Kino: This is the single biggest problem that I have faced...when stood up with HB, it is very hard for me to speak intimately into their ear in a bar without slouching down and in turn looking really keen and supplicating thus loosing alpha status. It is just like there is this huge uncomfortable vertical space between us. Smaller guys can stand intimately close to a girl, whilst keeping excellent posture, confiding in her ear, arms comfortably around her whilst STILL seaming disinterested. Large height differences in general make Kino more tricky and for this reason taller girls are easier for me to seduce all around. This issue then extends to kissing, which sometimes is close to impossible for me, if the girl is unwilling to put large effort in (which is very rare for an HB-8 and above), and generally just physically awkward to be honest and not as enjoyable as it should be. Again guys without such height differentials can just grab one of these more resistant girls and kiss them with no complex docking procedure in one smooth manouever! (Again, I can do this easily with tall girls). I know these issues play out in the girl's mind's as sometimes the second we are walking up stairs or an esculator (and hence at Equal height temporarily) she will immediately start kissing me!! Dancing sexily is also hard as good dance partners should not be to dissimilar in height, a reason why I hate clubs. Maybe you have some solutions to this? If anything this is the only problem with being tall while STANDING UP. If you are laying down its quite easy to be intimate with a girl. There isn't much you can do while you are standing in a club and trying to kiss a girl in a club that is way shorter than you. You could pick her up if you are strong enough or you can sit down and the girl and sit on your lap and the two of you and kiss. Quote: Intimidation. I think some girls find my height scary..This is not a big complaint though, as you can win them around with enough charm and gentle Kino. Often in a seated environment, girls are hugely into me (I have a HG-8 face), yet when I stand up and a taller than everyone else...they seem to lose interest or seem shocked....''oh my god..I never realized you are so tall?''...It becomes an issue. Deal with it. There will always going to be girls that are going to be intimidated by your height. There is NOTHING you can do about it. Quote: Solutions: I think I have become a little confused with which strategy to play..overcome the intimidation factor by playing against your size: being gentle and caring not overemphasising body movements and don't come across scary like an alpha-bear to a small girl. OR, instead, act proportional to my height..in the sense of being ULTRA alpha: standing a big ground, big movements, bear hugs, lots of energy...larger than life. Despite scaring some girls, I think this overcomes the issues of kino...(IE picking girls up off the floor, grabbing them like slaves works) is congruent with being alpha and gets even more attention whilst fending off AMOGS. In essence: If you're big, you NEED to act big and not be in any sense apologetic. This is how Rugby players and NFL players act on nights out , and HB-8s+ become willing to make the effort to overcome kino difficulties. The ONLY solution here is to own your height and be secure and confident in it. Because that is really the only way do deal with being tall. Because if you are thinking about your height constantly its not going do you you any favors when it comes to picking up girls.

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