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Author:  mymeowcat [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Gambler Tactic: Forcing an IOI
I saw this video where Gambler forces an IOI. He would be sucking on a lollipop and some girl looks at him and he does something funny and she laughs and he takes that as an approach invitation.

Problem is that I find in most bars, the instant you make eye contact --- they look away too quickly to see your next move.

It appears the only way it would work is if you are really good looking and they keep eye contact with you or if two already know each other.

Suggestions anyone?
Author:  Bormad [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:14 pm ]
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Dont overthink every little thing a girl does in a bar. Most of the time it wont make sense if you are looking for the negatives of the situation. instead turn it around and think of the positive of a girl looking away (she caught you looking at her and feels nervous).

Try your best to use the 3 second rule as much as possible and you will have some success!
Author:  mymeowcat [ Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:45 am ]
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I was actually looking for anyone who had success with some of Gambler’s tactics from the Natural Game video he has out. You had to have watched that to know the tricks. This is not an inner game/confidence question…more of a tactic one. For example:

Forcing an IOI (the part where he’s sucking on a lollipop, gets a look from s girl then transitions to offering her a lollipop, then a cigarette, then cocaine which induces a forced IOI of laughter). He would then approach and open. The problem I’m seeing with this one is that the target has to hold eye contact with you for about 3 seconds. In most cases when you and another person make eye contact in a bar --- the eye contact is only about 1 second since you/them don’t want to be caught staring since this would creep out the other.

There’s another one involving the Rock Star effect --- the problem is that in many cases the girls have to lined up in certain positions. You almost have to make an unusual effort to maneuver yourself into position to do this one. As far as preselection goes --- it has to be timed right so others can see it.

There was another one where you open a girl1 but then wave to girl2 – after you opened girl1 you open girl 2. The problem with that one is that girl 2 has to maintain eye contact with you for longer than normal. Girl1 has to notice girl2 looking at you.

There was another one that sound conceptually sound…When you open a girl you go “blah, blah, blah…my Girlfriend…blah, blah, blah” and thus disqualifying yourself and making her know you are not gaming her and makes her more open. I tried that but the girl just back tuned me when I said Girlfriend and walked away! It was almost like she thought I thought she was gaming me and I was shooting her down and rejecting her advances by saying I was “taken”. Anyone seeing this would not interpret this as preselction (seeing how she was walking away).

I can see potential in his Natural Game thing --- just trying to work out some bugs.
Author:  Jaybot [ Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:54 pm ]
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Ahoy my advice would be to work on your eye contact, if you are doing it right she won't look away. (self plug imminent) I have bits on eye contact and forcing IOIs in my book. Anyways for the time being before you get your EC down I would suggest keep looking at her (obviously social smarts will tell you if you are being creepy) but most of the time she will look back, when you see her head turning turn yours so you both kinda make eye contact but it seems like you are looking around. Then just smile, laugh a little bit and look away ( anyone about to jump on me that it's not alpha, neither is bitching people out over forums about things that you don't understand yet :) ). So then jsut walk over (technically a warm approach as there is some semblance of rapport there already) and say hi.

Or if you fancy having some fun, tell her to stop undressing you with her eyes and jokingingly call her a pervert.

Anyways, work on your eye contact, ignore the bullshit about the 3 second rule (it's for people that haven't yet located their testicles) and don't try to make things perfect, pickup is like American football you can gain a yard, loose possession, generally fuck about and things not be perfect but keep pushing on and you will get yourself into the endzone lol
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