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| Author: | wantit [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:36 pm ] |
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so my problem... So I get number and everything but when i ask them out i get : we can go as friends... Hate that... That happens so often... How to get over this? |
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| Author: | The Bachelor's Code [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:09 pm ] |
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Wantit, Well it sounds like you're missing the attraction step. It sounds like your opening which is great. Sounds like your closing since you're setting up the next date...you just need to attract and build some comfort and you'll be in the game in no time... This would be hard to diagnose solely from the information you have given, but I'm sure we could figure this out and give you some good tips. Let's ask a few questions: 1. Where are you going to pick up these women? 2. What are you using for openers? 3. How much kino are you building before you close? 4. What subjects are you talking about? 5. Where are you planning your second dates? Mainly the problem lies in being a beta male. You need to project being alpha, and the fact that you want to fuck these girls. Don't comply to their shit tests. Don't smile too much. Avoid being needy because that will immediately put you in the pathetic friend zone. One of the more important things is to build kino and sexual tension. Dance with her, touch her, caress her. Basically let her know you are not there looking for a friend and you are interested in pursuing a sexual relationship. Knowing nothing at all of your situation, one piece of advice I would give would be this...Stop being so nice. I don't mean be an ass hole necessarily, but don't laugh at all her jokes, don't answer all of her questions, and don't always pay attention to her. Get distracted. Look at other women. Flat out ignore the questions you don't feel like answering (the shit tests). Once you become a bit more edgy and unpredictable, girls will start looking at you in a more sexual way... |
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| Author: | wantit [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:22 am ] |
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1. Where are you going to pick up these women? Well in day, at shop, street... When in party or club i get kiss close easy but in day i guess I'm terrible... 2. What are you using for openers? Well I like opinion, ''What a guy should say to his girlfriend when their saying good bye through phone'', mostly opoinion or drug dealer 3. How much kino are you building before you close ? Well actually I kind of a play with her, grab her and she likes it 4. What subjects are you talking about? Well I get some info about her... About our hobbies we both like... 5. Where are you planning your second dates? Well I don't know.. I ask em out and if they say yes I start to think.. I think your right, that i don't built enough comfort or attraction... Give me some more good tips, what should i do etc. Thanks |
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| Author: | Syxx [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:38 pm ] |
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Basically everything Roofas said is true. The problem probably lies on the attraction part of things, since you apparently have build enough comfort for her to be wanting to go out with you in general. From the 5 questions you just answered, although it isn't much, I'd say your main problem lies in your mid-game since you don't seem to have any problem opening or closing. First off all, about the subjects you talk about. You can't just rant on about each other's hobbies, I recommend you look up some post's regarding DHV'ing, I think that could really set you up for something bigger. As for the Kino, I think that grabbing and so on is great, because it builds comfort, the only problem is that friends do that too. You need to sexualise it and escalate your kino, maybe starting off with a compliance test to kinda see how much she is willing to let you escalate. Oh and if you can manage it, throw in some SOI's too, if you can place them at the right times, they work like a charm. Finally I think you should check out this video on Youtube called "Do you know how to break out of the Lets Just Be Friends zone?", you can find it by searching youtube for that. I'd post it myself, but I'm not allowed to yet >_< |
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| Author: | wantit [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:59 pm ] |
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So guys.. I got that attraction is part where i suck.. Could you give me some examples and tips how to make attraction? |
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| Author: | StreetLight [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
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Quote: So guys.. I got that attraction is part where i suck..
I wouldn't necessarily say attraction, the problem is that you "invite them out"...Could you give me some examples and tips how to make attraction? Just be fun.. "I'm doing this and that.. wanna join" an actual "DATE" is something that is stressful for girls, they feel that they owe you something, they cannot be sure that you're not just another prick picking them up next time try to tell them "Lets go ...[insert whatever here]... , but remember were just going as friends" they will feel more comfortable to join you, and get to know you, and you can continue building whatever you want from there |
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| Author: | aflifer [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:05 am ] |
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could be anything, just put yourself in their shoes, are you someone that you would want to date |
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