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Author:  Mr.Fox [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  That Damn Friend Zone
Hey Guys. I've just discovered I was in the Friend Zone with this particular girl I've grown quite fond of. I'm not at all worried about her classing me as a friend but I've grown worried about the fact that this is the 4th girl in the past 3 months who has put me in there again and I'm not keen on being doomed to repeat mistakes that would cannonball me into that zone again.

Is there a way that I could be seen initially as a sexual being and not as a friend?


Mr. Fox
Author:  Chief [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:05 pm ]
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Yes. Sexualize the interaction by projecting sexual state, using sexual framing techniques, and building sexual tension. You will become friend-zone proof.
Author:  pope23 [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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Analyse what you're doing now when you're running game on them. Think back step by step and when you figured out what your doing you could take the following steps:

1. read a book about pickup and put the strategies next to yours, it's easy to see the difference.
2. Find out which elements put you in the friend zone.
3. Next time you run game you change those elements.

The most important is that you are willing to apply different tactics then you are using currently. Be willing to try out new stuff. Don't tell yourself 'but, that's not me'
it will keep you in the same position as you are now. Cause those who are always doing the same things, will always get the same results.
Author:  Mr.Fox [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:32 pm ]
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I'm currently reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss but I feel that what is stated in that book is not sufficient enough. Is there any other books you gentleman would recommend me to read?
Author:  SpeXXX [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:10 am ]
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I'm currently reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss but I feel that what is stated in that book is not sufficient enough. Is there any other books you gentleman would recommend me to read?
"The Game" is more a memoir telling the background story of the community, than a How-to book.
You should start with "The Mystery Method" by Mystery.
after that you can read "The Attraction Code" by Vin DiCarlo
Author:  Mr.Fox [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:47 am ]
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Much obliged, Sir. :)
Author:  pope23 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:20 pm ]
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I can higly recommend you to read The natural art of seduction by Richard la Ruina.
Mystery method contains a very clear theory about women that I also recommend you to read. But the examples later on in the Mystery method are mostly based on scripts, scripts that has been used by thousands of guys before you.

However, The game is the best of all in my opinion. It brings you in a different state and shows the difference between an AFC and a successful guy with women.
Author:  CommonSense [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:52 pm ]
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I forgot who said it, but some of the best advice I heard is very similar to Chief's.

You have to let her know that you are a sexual being. The only difference between a best friend and a lover is sex.

To do that you can do what Chief said and "project sexual state" but to people that haven't been in the community for a while that just sounds like jargon.

One thing you should know is that most girls will put themselves in other people's places in order to judge a situation (its why they are more compassionate then men). Using this knowledge you can ask her a question involving you and sex and she will put herself in that girls place in her mind. A good question might be...

"So I was kissing this girl and she was using too much tongue. What do you think I should do?" (Obviously word it too suit your needs). By asking this she will put herself in the situation of that girl which will open her up to the thought that you are a kissable man.

Oh and don't forgot Kino. I'm sure you've heard it before, the community feels as if kino is "the magic pill" that if you use it the girls will love you. And its true if you do it right. Try using overt kino on her. To learn about overt kino do some research on on Vin DiCarlo's kino escalation ladder. This type of Kino will make force her to subconsciously move you out of the friends zone and into the sexual partner zone.
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