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Author:  Trumpcard [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  This is never talked about - I wonder why

Hey guys, now that I have your attention I was wondering what do you do with damaged sets? Sets gone bad? I am in a closed environment (college) and I don't have that much time for this massive social proof game. So thats out.

So my questions are -

1) How would you game without social proof and;
2) If the set goes bad, what should you do to get your face back, cuz you will be seeing those same ppl again and again

Thanks!

Author:  Chillburg [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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Well, the last time I 'ruined' a set (was too loud, we were basicly saying "WHAT?" the whole time to each other) I just ejected and when I met them a day later in a less noisy bar I walked up to them smiling "hey remember me from last night, that didn't really work right haha, next time I'll do better :wink: "

I know you're talking about college but the thing here is that you should just laugh it off really, I #-closed one of the girls in the 2set a few days later. If you don't let it phase you then it won't be awkward when you run into them again. Just give them a smile and/or a wink and walk on by.

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:44 pm ]
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Wait,what you mean you can't gather social proof on campus?

As long as there's people,you can get social proof.

You can sarge without SP but why make it harder on yourself?

Chat up other people.Ar you like that anti-social guy hiding off in the corner? If you're not,then get your ass out there and chat to other people around the target to get SP.

If you make a strong/dominant entrance;thats social proof.

Great body language is another way of building SP.

But wouldn't it be much easier to just chat with everyone around the room and be that cool guy?

Author:  Ezo [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:39 pm ]
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This is the reason why we dont sarge in our social circles. (Unless we have to.)

How bad can you fuck up so that you are afriad to see these people again?

Author:  Double J [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:37 am ]
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I was out a long while back in my local club, i went out to the smoking area, and asked a two set for a fag, she said no, a minuet later she asked me for a lighter, i didn't have one and told her just that, she though i was lying and decided to slap me in the face 3 times. Chavs... After each hit, i started to laugh, she hit again i laughed harder, after the final hit there was a crowed, i finished laughing and said:

"All that for a lighter? if you ask someone ells im sure the'll jump at the chance to give you one now."

That night i carried on dancing with some friends, had a few drinks, and was happy as could be, it didn't affect my fun at all.

The point is, if a set goes bad, you can never regain face, you can only reduce the loss of it, by sticking to your game plan, and not reacting to much to a rare loss.

And you don't game without social proof, you create it in the environment your in from the second you enter, if you don't create social proof, you do not game efficiently.

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:21 am ]
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Lol,I had to laugh Indiana J.

Not because of the slaps but how to kept it alpha cool and went on partying. I like that.

Author:  Trumpcard [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:21 pm ]
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LOL no im not a freak who hides in a corner like a hobbit or a smeagle. Point is, I want to go out and game who I want, when I want. Relying on just social proof is like a magician with one trick and runs scared without it, I don't want that to be me.

Thanks for the tips, I am starting to not give a damn anyways and my game is slowly starting to improve.

Author:  footjob [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:29 am ]
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Surely the fact you are so reliant in your mind on social proof it is hindering your game as you believe yourself to not have any social proof.

You can never underestimate the power of social proof and at univestiy I see it work wonders for people all the time. By that I mean real troll guys getting with the hottest chicks on campus. If you sleep with 10 girls at university and people know about it you can sleep with another 50 easy off that social proof alone.

With or without social proof day game is definitely the way to go. I haven't done many approaches in the daytime but it is an area of my game I am determined to nail by the end of this month. My goal is to have a group of 3 or 4 girls that I go out dancing with. I really enjoy dancing and this would give me mad social proof in a nightclub enviroment.

My thinking is that day game is a lot more effective as there are so few out there doing it. You immediately stand out. It takes a lot of balls to approach a girl/group of girls in the daytime, state your intention then attempt to get a number. If done confidently it could be golden.

Author:  VanHaven [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:13 am ]
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Are people really that concerned about blowing themselves out? I honestly can't recall a single time I got blown out. It's happened and I know that. However, its just not that important to me. Truth is that its not that important to the people around you either. Women get hit on constantly, and you're most likely not the one that is going to forever stick out in their mind if you mess up.

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