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Author:  DC_SNIPER [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  GOING WITHOUT A WINGMAN
DOES ANYBODY PREFER TO GO LONE WOLF WHEN HUNTING WOMEN???

I DO... A WINGMAN JUST CRAMPS MY STYLE AND IF YOU GO TO THE BAR ALONE YOU AREN'T A LOSER IF YOU COME HOME WITH A BROAD

HERE'S THE STORY:

1.) GO TO THE BAR ALONE

2.) DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL; DRINK WATER OR SODA (SOME BARS WILL GIVE YOU SODA FREE ALL NIGHT IF YOU TELL THEM YOU ARE THE D.D.)

3.) GIRLS WILL THINK YOU ARE DRINKING ALCOHOL BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRUNK AT A BAR THEY JUST ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE IS TOO

4.) FIND YOUR TARGET

5.) ISOLATE HER BY WALKING RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HER AND TELLING HER YOU NEED TO ASK HER A QUESTION: "HAVE YOU SEEN A GIRL THAT MATCHES THIS DESCRIPTION???" GIVE HER A PHONY DESCRIPTION OF SOME HOT GIRL, AND TELL HER YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET HER AT THE BAR TONIGHT

6.) YOU WILL HAVE DONE TWO THINGS: ENGAGED THE GIRL IN CONVO, AND MADE HER BELIEVE YOU MEET WOMEN AT BARS (WHICH MAKES IT NORMAL). PLUS, IF YOU GET INTO DEEPER CONVO WITH HER SHE WILL THINK YOU LEFT THE BROAD YOU WERE THERE WITH FOR HER... BINGO

7.) GET HER NUMBER IMMEDIATELY AND BOUNCE OR TAKE HER HOME (IF SHE IS A BUST DOWN)

8.) WEAR A CONDOM
Author:  Chelios [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:20 pm ]
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Haha i like your style, but think you will get mixed responses with women.
Author:  Ezo [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:54 pm ]
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Well, its good either way. I alter between sarging with my wing and going solo. Sarging alone is good too but Im rarely alone since I go into a set first thing I do when I enter a place. Sarging with a wing is good because you can get second opinions and criticism on your game.
Author:  DC_SNIPER [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:06 pm ]
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Haha i like your style, but think you will get mixed responses with women.
NO SHIT... ALL WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT AND NO MATTER WHAT METHOD YOU CHOOSE TO ENGAGE THEM YOU WILL HAVE A SUCCESS/FAIL RATE
Author:  F_I_X_E_R [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:29 am ]
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Roll however you feel it's right mate. I used to have a wingman, and damn he sucked. Blamed me for all the lost sets and always slowed me down.

Currently I prefer doing things solo. I might bring a girl with me for social proof and minor winging. Trust me, they have fun helping you once you give them a "secret mission"
Author:  Chelios [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:37 am ]
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I agree about the woman part being with you, because girls like to do sly things, they like to have their nose in the majority of things haha!
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:46 pm ]
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Ok, dudes. If you think that your wing sucks and slow you down, is it not your duty to train him, to share your knowledge?
Author:  Chelios [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:00 am ]
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That's my plan this weekend Ezo, I'm going out to have an alcohol fre night, taking a friend with me, a very good friend to share my knowledge, he has the potential so he needs to utilize it.
Author:  F_I_X_E_R [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:04 pm ]
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Ok, dudes. If you think that your wing sucks and slow you down, is it not your duty to train him, to share your knowledge?
All my friends choose to be insecure and spit on PUA stuff... I've tried teaching something to my friends, but they just don't get it.

I asked a friend of mine to come with my while I approached a set. He was just supposed to hang around me and take care of the obstacles and he assured me he can do this.

I opened and did ALL of the talking and he just kept quiet the entire time. I admit, I kinda fucked up, and the set stopped buying into me and I left the set. I did put a fake time constraint after all.

When I was about to approach another set with him (second for the night) He started yelling at me, blaming me for everything, saying that I should have bough everyone a drink in order to get any results....

He pissed me off and I felt my confidence dropping. I went to the bathroom to wash my face and think a little. I approached a 2 set of mediocre girls by myself. And it went well. They even introduced to other girls, and then I learned that female wings are much better.

So if you wanna roll with a wingman, make sure his skill is equal or better than yours. Otherwise you're fucked like I was.
Author:  RockyD [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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Man, wing men are great. if he does well, and social boosts you, you can hit the skies and be in there straight away. plus is more fun with a mate
Author:  SoCo123 [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:25 am ]
Post subject:  wingman for isolation
I would say wingmen should only be used right before isolation as almost a sacrifice to keep the obstacles occupied. If you work with a wingman you really need to take turns "gaming" and "blocking". The hardest part is that a lot of guys, unless they are experienced, dont know how to "block" for another guy and they end up trying to game the girl you are after (probably cuz shes the hottest one). They will say "she was more into me", but we all think that they are "more into us". So if you use a wingman, make sure he is actually in it to be a PUA, not to get married. Some guys get into this business for ass, but some are in it for love. The lovers shouldn't wingman.
Author:  The Persian [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GOING WITHOUT A WINGMAN
Quote:
DOES ANYBODY PREFER TO GO LONE WOLF WHEN HUNTING WOMEN???

I DO... A WINGMAN JUST CRAMPS MY STYLE AND IF YOU GO TO THE BAR ALONE YOU AREN'T A LOSER IF YOU COME HOME WITH A BROAD

HERE'S THE STORY:

1.) GO TO THE BAR ALONE

2.) DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL; DRINK WATER OR SODA (SOME BARS WILL GIVE YOU SODA FREE ALL NIGHT IF YOU TELL THEM YOU ARE THE D.D.)

3.) GIRLS WILL THINK YOU ARE DRINKING ALCOHOL BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRUNK AT A BAR THEY JUST ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE IS TOO

4.) FIND YOUR TARGET

5.) ISOLATE HER BY WALKING RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HER AND TELLING HER YOU NEED TO ASK HER A QUESTION: "HAVE YOU SEEN A GIRL THAT MATCHES THIS DESCRIPTION???" GIVE HER A PHONY DESCRIPTION OF SOME HOT GIRL, AND TELL HER YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET HER AT THE BAR TONIGHT

6.) YOU WILL HAVE DONE TWO THINGS: ENGAGED THE GIRL IN CONVO, AND MADE HER BELIEVE YOU MEET WOMEN AT BARS (WHICH MAKES IT NORMAL). PLUS, IF YOU GET INTO DEEPER CONVO WITH HER SHE WILL THINK YOU LEFT THE BROAD YOU WERE THERE WITH FOR HER... BINGO

7.) GET HER NUMBER IMMEDIATELY AND BOUNCE OR TAKE HER HOME (IF SHE IS A BUST DOWN)

8.) WEAR A CONDOM
Can't say I agree with you mate.
First of all, Yes losers, go to pub alone (not saying you are, but thats the stereotype) and if you do go alone, make sure no one finds out and try and pretend ur friends are just sitting somewhere or they r on their way.
I suggest Hiroshima opener for better results. If you tell a girl you are "waiting" for a girl and she is not there yet, she'd think you've been played around and that does not help with your social value AT ALL!
Girls are not dumb, they are not gonna get fooled with such cheesy openers and if you were mostly successful so far its not because your game rules, it's because the other girl was also either alone, or naive or maybe she actually found ya attractive!
Author:  jackp [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:01 pm ]
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I used to go out alone because I hadn't made new friends when I moved cities and it kinda sucked. You certainly learn a lot from being in the field alone as there is no support group to talk to. Nowhere to hide :)

Many girls will think you're wierd/creepy/loser if you are out alone UNLESS you bring the energy and cool vibe. It's only really a problem with the first set as after that you can always say honestly that you are hanging out with those guys/girls 'over there'.

Some place are very difficult to go solo, like clubs and bars where almost everyone sits down around tables, like in those Asian style whisky/restaurant type clubs. Other bars like college bars or the crammed full of people, then it doesn't matter one bit.

I prefer to go out with one or two friends if I can, even if only acquaintances as long as they are not negative/insecure people.

But hey, you have to pull by yourself anyway so may as well just get used to it.
Author:  Nihro [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:49 pm ]
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I think going out with the mentality you have won't work out in the long run, mostly because it sounds like you're making the evening too goal oriented. I have found that if you just go out to have fun it makes the social interactions go MUCH more smoothly. For some reason women can sense when you're going out to hit on women, don't ask me how but that's the impression I've gotten. However, when you go out to have fun they start viewing you as the prize instead of just another guy trying to get into their pants. Obviously you still progress sexually just like any other guy, but the frame is more flexible. Idk, going out solo is fine but I guarantee you'll probably have more fun if you head out with some friends. Interacting with women shouldn't be a chore it should be an adventure, going out and expecting results instead of just letting them happen is detrimental to the results you hope to achieve.
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