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Author:  Foxtrot 5 [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Too much cocky?
I think this is a big problem for guys. Trying to find the medium between cocky and funny is pretty difficult (at least for me). Lately I've noticed that I'm too cocky. So whatever good things I do say girls take as a joke like "alriigghhtt, suree" type of deal.

How can I balance this? Any advice?
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:43 am ]
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Yea Im going through similar strugles Foxtrot 5. Since i'v been reading a lot of newsletters out being dominat and alpha,it kind of went to my head(lol). I've had targets tell me that Im too coccy. Sorry I can't help you on this one since Im trying to find the medium also.
Author:  Johnny B. [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:55 am ]
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Yea Im going through similar strugles Foxtrot 5. Since i'v been reading a lot of newsletters out being dominat and alpha,it kind of went to my head(lol). I've had targets tell me that Im too coccy. Sorry I can't help you on this one since Im trying to find the medium also.
Dominance is a state of mind. It is all about you feeling comfortable enough ( = confidence ) to operate fluently without giving the power to your personal anxieties. In other words this is your comfort zone. Inside that zone your communication is more relaxed and it doesent include a " risk " factor that would be disturbing your game ( for example you thinking is she liking me, what do i say or do next, etc. ). You can compare this to you talking to your best friend.
Dominance AINT about being physically dominant. Yes, your bodylanguage and vocal dominance has a huge impact on being an " alpha " but you can achieve this by having a solid bodylanguage ( not leaning foward, not breaking her personal space too soon, having a good posture,good eye contact, not hiding behind your beer bottle ) and speaking loud enough so she can hear you.
You being C&F is related to your persona ( your sense of humour ) if this is something that stems up from the inside. If not, than i would suggest you to dropp it ( dont act, be the best you ).
The only advice to this would be that when you are interacting in that set of yours, observe how they respond when you are talking to them ( Observe their bodylanguage such as eye movement or their tone of voice when they are responding back with words ). If you can see that they are being annoyed by you being too cocky than tune it down slowly a notch. But, dont make the mistake that you start screaming sorry and crawling on the floor just because she is irritated. This only eats your orginal value which she gave to you when you were talking to her. Why? Because you first had balls and suddenly you just lost them when she anwsered back to your fire. Instead, tune it down a bit step by step slowly without serving your dick on a plate. If you suddenly start acting vice versa compared to what you did when you were talking to her, she has to re- valuate you due to your new behaviour which can create a conflict inside her head and this may have an impact concerning your succes.

[ Johnny B ]
Author:  SimpleTwist [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:22 pm ]
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too much cocky is called arrogant or creepy... and girls will probably describe you as being an asshole or clown - lol... probably better to avoid that, although having a girl hate you is very powerful and should be experienced by someone at least once cause the sex is awesome... :wink:

ok, well so how to do Cocky and Funny right? It's a state of mind. Don't study how to be cocky and funny (i.e. don't learn things to say). Just BE. I first heard of this term "C&F" from that deangelo guy's advertising. BUT I know there is truth in it, because I would do it when flirting with girls... I just always thought of it as part of flirting.

So make sure you in flirt mode when hitting up a girl. Then hopefully it will slowly start to come to you naturally. The key is that you should be doing this when it is "already ON" with the girl. It goes with the whole "you can get away with anything" thing if you have already "built rapport" (as the dating gurus call it) with the girl or "if she likes you" (which is what I call it)

now girls also sometimes like men who are Bold, so if you have not gotten into that zone yet with a girl, maybe do 1 good cocky and funny comment - and she might think that you have balls and be impressed. But don't go rapidfire one after another. Otherwise she'll probably think "what's up with this guy?"

oh.. and listen to Johnny B. :)
Author:  DonPua [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:59 pm ]
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I have to agree with simpletwist here. The best thing to do is to not immediately open with a funny/cocky line. If you start a normal conversation and have some report with her, you will more likely get away with cocky/funny lines. That doesn't mean you can never get away with it when you open with a cocky/funny line. I sometimes got away making fun of a girl I didn't know in the presence of my friends and making them all burst into laughter. Instead of getting mad with me, she came crawling for my validation. But from the statistical point of view this isn't the most succesfull way of picking up. Also, once you are in set and are having some kind of report you don't have to worry anymore whether your line was too cocky. She will be more likely to accept overly cocky statements. So my advice would be to open normally and afterwards take it up a notch and throw in some cocky and funny lines.
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