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| Author: | badsid [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Approaching but no SUCCESS ! |
Hey guys i m going through this down fall, i m approaching but i m not getting any success, usually running direct game because ppl actualy say "your fairly a good looking guy",, with that being said my mind is playing tricks on me ,for example "ahh your not getting any success dont even bother" kinda thing..i dunno if I am going through weak inner game or what, but i really need some suggestions to help me out! Thanks -Badsid |
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| Author: | SirKonstantine [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:19 pm ] |
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Read Mastery. Your going threw the pain phase. You dont know what your doing yet. Just keep on enduring and going you. You'll get there. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:20 pm ] |
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Remember to kino escalate, qualify, test compliance, isolate and build comfort. |
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| Author: | badsid [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:41 pm ] |
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thanks SirKonstantine , and blondguy i m not reaching to that point where i need to kino and etc,, its has just been instant rejection kinda thing on my direct approaches,, i guess i m not doing them properly i m going wrong somewhere, and yeah your right about PAIN PHASE it is quite unpleasant, ill take a look at Mastery ! Thankz for support guys ! |
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| Author: | GoGetta [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:23 am ] |
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Give us an example of a few of the last approaches you've done. Try to be as in depth as possible. What is your state when approaching? What do you say? What do they say? Give us some examples mate. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:35 pm ] |
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If you're getting flat out rejections from your direct openers, you're probably having congruence or frame control issues. Why not try indirect so you can at least get past the opener and start learning some game, then when you build your confidence up, go back to direct? |
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| Author: | Johnny Cassell [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:48 pm ] |
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Badsid it is true to say if you dont feel good in the inside then it will definitely show on the outside. What could be a problem is your inner belief. A few techniques have been talked about within the community on how to enhance your inner game and self belief. But what you need to remember is nobody is going to love a person that doesn't love themself because that is not attractive. Before you go out get in the mirror and act the clown a bit, pull some sexual faces understand that you are a beautiful person. Pull some sexual eyes out ,make jokey comments of "WHICH ONE OF YOU WANTS IT FIRST" "ARE WE GONNA DO NAMES OR..." - sounds arrogant and cocky doesn't it but this is all building up your state before you go out , go out truelly believing that you are the man that women want to be with. The man women want to get approached by. Women will sence this aura about you and be more receptive. Direct openers work well if you use other sets as props leaving the targets set waiting . If you have this social guy precense in the club that is seen approaching almost every group. Then what it looks like is your the dude that knows everyone. Hot girls like this, and are left on edge when its there turn. They're are curious to know how you know anyone...wait a minute ..you dont right ? but they don't know that! you are just building up social value to soften up the approach. If you was to approach without building the social value and this goes for any environment, you could be perceived instantly as just a guy hitting on them. What we're after is 'The Social guy' . -make a friend over a stranger. (imded that in your head) |
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| Author: | badsid [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:04 pm ] |
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I think i know what i m doing wrong,, i m going through INNER GAME issues, its like when i approach, i m not even believing in my self/and not feeling all that great about me..my body language and face expressions maybe are giving it away of being a non confident guy ! i liked what Patranova said,, i go through these mirror rituals and be in state when i approach from now on ! -Badsid |
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| Author: | Casterlann [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:36 pm ] |
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That's normal, when using direct game your success rate won't be as high. (for various reasons) Oh course it will also depend on apperance, how direct you're being and whether to come across as friendly and easy to talk to by you're voice, BL .etc For a vague example, if you open 10 girls, only with 1 in 10 of them it will go how you would like it too. But when it does it works very well and speeds up the process. You said you're not feeling 'all great', i think you should try going indirect for the moment, it will more than likely increase your success rate and currently work best for you and not have such a knock on your self-esteem. |
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