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| Author: | superman019 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Need some help with this.. |
so i am going to some club tomorrow and the girl that i am interested in is coming to the club as well. i know this girl from before (shes in my class), but i dont know much of her. we had a conversation a few times but none of them were long enough to get to any strong conclusions.. but my friend told me that she was asking for my number because she wanted my notes or something.. thats funny because she knows a few people in that class and when she asked her friend ( whos not in my class) we barely knew each other..the second time she was with her friends and she came to me and had a conversation. we were pretty far away.. I think she is interested but i dont know for sure.. now my question is: what should i do when i see her in the club, i mean the talking material. i dont want to be talking about the class because that is obviously boring. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with this.. |
Quote: so i am going to some club tomorrow and the girl that i am interested in is coming to the club as well. i know this girl from before (shes in my class), but i dont know much of her. we had a conversation a few times but none of them were long enough to get to any strong conclusions.. but my friend told me that she was asking for my number because she wanted my notes or something.. thats funny because she knows a few people in that class and when she asked her friend ( whos not in my class) we barely knew each other..the second time she was with her friends and she came to me and had a conversation. we were pretty far away..
Try and arrive early, with a mixed group of friends (guys and girls if possible). Either way, make an effort to get to know people in the club - talk to everyone, guys and girls. The easiest way to make friends with guys is just to open them indirectly with a straight compliment about an item of clothing they're wearing (or maybe their bleached hair or tattoo on their arm, etc.), say it's cool, ask them where they got it, and transition into any shit about the game last night or whatever. Smile, make some jokes and be funny, introduce yourself, get their names, and bounce to the next set. Mixed sets are easy to do this way because you can open the guys first, which helps you come under the radar when you then want to game the girls in the group. The "how do you guys know each other" question to the whole group is a great way to gauge who's single and who's a couple in the mixed set.I think she is interested but i dont know for sure.. now my question is: what should i do when i see her in the club, i mean the talking material. i dont want to be talking about the class because that is obviously boring. Basically you want to game the venue before she arrives, so that (in the best possible scenario) when she comes through the door, she sees you talking to a group of guys and girls, everybody's laughing, the girls are all looking at you and smiling, and there are people in the club walking past you, you're high-fiving them, and it basically looks like you fucking own the place and are the most popular guy there. You can then use these sets you've pre-opened (even if it's just to ask where the other bar or bathroom is, then thanked them for being friendly and helpful, gotten their names, introduced yourself and walked off - interaction time 1-2 mins) for a number of things. If the conversation between you and her or you and her group goes stale, you can just immediately be like "hey I have to talk to some of my friends over there, I'll catch you guys back over here in a minute" or "hey why don't we go meet some of my friends." This second one is especially good if she comes with some cockblocking friends of hers - you can then introduce her group to one of yours, then borrow her and go isolate 5-10 feet away from the group. Now that group have become your wings, AND you look like a leader, a facilitator, and a popular guy. In terms of conversation, try and avoid class at all costs, unless something legitimately funny happened in it that will make a funny story. I would say your basic strategy would be to first meet her friends, be c+f with them, and focus on them, not her. When she butts in to say something, be like "is she always like this?" or something. Obviously, playful and with a smile. Build the tension, but not enough to lose her. Then do introductions or whatever if you want with another group, and try to isolate her. "Hey lemme just borrow your friend for a minute." Go a few feet away, far enough so they can't hear, but close enough so they can see you two. Stand with your back to a wall or bar. When you talk, try to first make statements, like "you're one of THOSE girls...I see" or "you know when I first met you, I wasn't sure, but I can see you're actually a pretty fun and outgoing person." Stuff like that is showing a strong frame, and it's getting her to qualify herself to you. You can do the same thing by screening, e.g. "I like hanging out with people who are pretty smart, but also know how to party and have a good time - they're so much more fun because they have more depth to them than the average person." If she starts talking about how she is smart and loves to go out and have fun, then she's trying to prove to you that she is worthy enough for you. A great place to be. Finally, to really help lead the interaction properly, you must physically escalate through kino. First of all, it helps to show you are a generally touchy-feely guy, so when you're talking to guys, pat them on the back and whatever in a friendly way whilst you're talking to them too. Touching girls' shoulder and arm when you make a point or come to a punchline of a joke are very simple, nonthreatening ways to initiate kino - again, do that with her friends too so that the whole group sees you as a physical guy. Once you're isolating her, you want to move to holding the small of her back, leading her around the club by her hand, holding her hips while you guys dance, having your hand on her thigh while you guys are sitting down having a drink, etc. Always try to move kino up the ladder, NEVER look where you're kinoing, and ALWAYS be the first to break kino. Bascially, when you first hold her hand, hold it for a minute and then just let it kind of drop as you look somewhere else and are like "oh hey they have those shots in test tubes here, I love those!" When you hold her hand the second time, she'll WANT you to, and you have that rung of the ladder locked-in. |
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| Author: | superman019 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:39 pm ] |
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i know most of her friends but i can still use those conversational starters ... thanks blondguy |
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