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Author:  BobHu [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:06 am ]
Post subject:  Not sure where to post this, but i need help.
Sup im bob, and i need some help with a situation were this girl thats the most amazing girl ive ever met in my life has a bf and hes a total douchebag and asshole and doesnt deserve her but theyve been together for 4 years.
I want to know how to get out of the friend zone patiently if you know a girl with a boyfriend likes you? We got to know each other pretty well and i met her family and she told me she feels that charisma with me. Im confused about everything.

So I confessed my feelings to a girl who I've become good friends with, and she told me that she likes me but also likes being friends with me and that since she's been with her boyfriend for 4 years it was either be friends or be nothing at all, and I told her that I love being around her and talking to her so I picked to be friends, but I don't want to go deep into the friend zone and I want to stay on the verge of friend zone and potential intimate relationship so that if she ever breaks up with mr.douche bag she will remember the feelings that I have for her. How do I do this? But don't come off as a complete asshole or distance myself from her so that I pretend to not know her.
Sure I want more, but more isn't possible now, and for now I'm fine with being friends cause I want her in my life in some way, she can't just break up with her boyfriend of 4 years since she's that's such a long time and it'll take time most def.
For those people who are like "oh she's awfully happy with her bf". They always argue, and been on and off for 4 years. He's a d-bag.

I texted something jokingly about him one day to this girl and he read it. So hes messaged me about doin slick shit and how if i do it again there will be problems, so i said that there wont be any problems but he better not threaten me, something like that. So i dont rly give a fuck about this kid, but he is deff preventing me from making plans with this girl to hang out. So i gotta let things cool down. But still wanna go through with showing her the better man ( me ) =] since at first we used to hang out alot and then when i met her bf he must have said some shit to her.
Author:  BlueCassanova [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:11 am ]
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Ok, well....

If you really want her, you have two obstacles. But before those obstacles you must known for sure, that she would be with you w/o those obstacles present. I've disarmed husbands before back when, and I'm not proud of it, but a boyfriend is a dime a dozen.

First Obstacle. MAKE VERY SURE she wants to be friends ONLY because of her BF. Do you know for sure she would be yours if he wasn't there?

Second Obstacle: The BF. If you want her, you need to talk to her in a attraction/comfort hybrid style. You need to find out what he offers her that she likes, and what he does that she does not like, somehow, someway. If talks regarding that subject matter fail, you might want to pull in some NLP to get her true emotions out and talk to her about what she is missing out on and such. but that's deviant. :twisted:

REALITY CHECK: Do you really want her, or do you want her because she has a serious partner?..............
Author:  nuskulu [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:30 am ]
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what you do is this: you start talking to her and you turn the conversation to relationships, try to find out if she's interested in you if she wasn't with him, then if she is ask her this question (this is a powerful one):

Do you really think that this guy (whats-his-face) is the kind of guy you always dreamed of living the rest of your life with?

trust me... this will get her thinking... and if you calibrated it enough you should live to see them break up, quite soon actually, they will start to fight etc...
Author:  BobHu [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:30 pm ]
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Quote:
Ok, well....

If you really want her, you have two obstacles. But before those obstacles you must known for sure, that she would be with you w/o those obstacles present. I've disarmed husbands before back when, and I'm not proud of it, but a boyfriend is a dime a dozen.

First Obstacle. MAKE VERY SURE she wants to be friends ONLY because of her BF. Do you know for sure she would be yours if he wasn't there?

Second Obstacle: The BF. If you want her, you need to talk to her in a attraction/comfort hybrid style. You need to find out what he offers her that she likes, and what he does that she does not like, somehow, someway. If talks regarding that subject matter fail, you might want to pull in some NLP to get her true emotions out and talk to her about what she is missing out on and such. but that's deviant. :twisted:

REALITY CHECK: Do you really want her, or do you want her because she has a serious partner?..............
I want her because shes the most amazing girl ive ever met. Beautiful in every way. But since we have already gotten to know each other and opportunity to talk about her relationship arose on the first time hanging out and i didnt take it. What is a good way of bringing it up but her not getting too suspicous of me trying something?
Author:  BlueCassanova [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:59 pm ]
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Don't be so worried about her being suspicious of you trying something. If she likes you deep down inside as more than a friend, then she will be expecting it, regardless of what she says. She wants to rationalize why she can't, using logic and reasons to shoot down her internal emotional feelings.

If she really is suspicious and acts weird on the other hand, you have to understand right now, that you will not be able to be friends with her. It will be unhealthy and extremely detrimental to you mentally. Also, you need to really look inside yourself and make sure you're not falling for a girl based on obsession, because she's not yours. I've done this a few times and got the girl, and a month or so later got bored. Guys fall prey to the cat-string theory as well and want it when they can't have it, and when they do, don't really want it. Only you can know this.

With that said, as the other poster mentioned, you need to focus your conversations on relationships now. This is going to be your final game with her, expect to eject from your relationship with her if it doesn't work. Don't be nervous either, if you do go through with it, and she doesn't accept it and you guys fall apart, she may still contact you in time. Women remember EVERYTHING, and play it back over and over in their head like a season of some TV drama, then play back what the other guy did, and then what you did, etc, and constantly try to rate which touched her more, or which she could see watching more episodes of.

You need to now break down her BF in her mind. It sounds very covert and deviant, and possibly so. But remember that a woman is never forced to do something she doesn't want, like I mentioned above, they rationalize against their feelings.

It would be optimal to see her face to face, quiet environment with little interruption.

Use your pre-existing comfort with her to talk about things light, then slowly progress to more serious things (did you hear about so-and-so, my aunt had X happen to her). If you've had other relationships (or, just as good, a female friend is asking you advice about her BF since they're also on shaky ground), talk about them and why they didn't work, but only choose specific things that she can RELATE to the same situation as herself and the guy (like a cold read, be ambiguous at first, she will assume more details than what you say). Don't bring up her relationship, show vulnerability with yourself or your friends. She will bring it up. If not, then do it a second time (2nd meet), and bring it up casually. If she doesn't bring it up, she will leave thinking about how what you said applies to her and be more ready to talk next time. There are many ways to do this, but the most successful, though controversial is below:

[EDIT - I removed from public view due to conscience. Check your PM for the rest. For others reading, try Game and/or being yourself first, then post your situation as well]

Let us know how everything works out for you :)
Author:  BobHu [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:42 am ]
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So just to update, today after our class when i drove her. When we were in the parking lot i had to reach over in the back to grab something my car and she looked into my eyes. Im sure that everyone here knows the feeling of when a girl is talking to you and her eyes "say" im talking to you casually and your my friend, But when she looked into my eyes and held her stare i just felt that rare feeling that ive felt with her like alot of times, it said something more
that she wants something more
u can just see it, its something thats not explainable i just feel it, just like this mysterious feeling, i should have kept on looking in her eyes and maybe made a move if it came down to that but i didnt. But i just wanna know, am i exaggerating this or is it possible to just feel that connection and that feeling by just looking deeply into her eyes?
Author:  BobHu [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:16 pm ]
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anyone? haha
Author:  BobHu [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:41 pm ]
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bamppp
Author:  Rainism [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  i just pulled this shit off in a week
get over it man ro be a fukn deviant like me and use this little gem.

The way to her heart (in her pants) is through emotions not logic
Talk with how does this feel. Does this feel good. It feels good chilling with me.

When you get that look again use the "do you want to kiss me" line
if she says she shouldnt, then you say
: Well thats not what i asked. Do you Want to kiss me?
Its mysteries kiss gambit with another contingency panned for

Worked for me =]
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