PUA Forum :: Act like a prick !!!

I love women. I think they're great. I would never act like I don't care about them. I act like I don't care about LOSING that PARTICULAR ONE.

As for being rude, that sounds to me like a classic rAFC line. As an AFC, you think you have no power over women and you don't really know how to interact with them properly. Then as a rAFC you learn some material and think you know what a good neg is, and you go around getting reactions from women and you think - hey I get it, I do have power over these bitches, look they're staring wide eyed at me like "who IS this guy" and laughing and shit, fuck yeah!

However the fact most likely is that they're reacting positively to your newfound confidence, not your silly opinion opener or your borderline insulting neg. In fact, they're probably giving you some leeway because you are being fun, for the moment, and they'll cut you some slack cuz you're kinda cute. Well done, you've opened and showed some active disinterest, maybe.

BUT, to actually CLOSE the target, you're gonna have to leave behind the mindset that being rude works, because to build real comfort and a real connection, to actually be able to seduce, you have to both escalate, and also connect with her emotionally by being interested in what she has to say and qualifying her for those things about herself that she wants to be valued for. Silly canned negs are not gonna help you here, unfortunately. And being rude certainly won't.

Finally, a neg is NOT an insult. A neg is a subtle kind of compliment with a subtext that makes her question herself. For example "hey those shoes are cool, they're like something my little sister would love." It's a compliment, but (1) it's coming from a position of higher value and (2) it makes her think "wait, is he saying I have the fashion of a 10 year old? Doesn't he think I'm mature enough for him? Why not?" etc.

Author:	Stallone [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:59 am ]
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I have found that acting like you don't give a crap about a woman works best....don't pay attention to them and be border line rude....seems like I get a better response....anyone agree ???

Author:	Punchl!ne [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:28 am ]
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Yes and No. "Act like you don't care" - Check! In fact, don't care! Why would it matter to you? "Be rude" - Hrmm... Tease, be unpredictable, whatever. Outright rude? I don't like it, but sometimes it works... yes.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:04 am ]
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I love women. I think they're great. I would never act like I don't care about them. I act like I don't care about LOSING that PARTICULAR ONE. As for being rude, that sounds to me like a classic rAFC line. As an AFC, you think you have no power over women and you don't really know how to interact with them properly. Then as a rAFC you learn some material and think you know what a good neg is, and you go around getting reactions from women and you think - hey I get it, I do have power over these bitches, look they're staring wide eyed at me like "who IS this guy" and laughing and shit, fuck yeah! However the fact most likely is that they're reacting positively to your newfound confidence, not your silly opinion opener or your borderline insulting neg. In fact, they're probably giving you some leeway because you are being fun, for the moment, and they'll cut you some slack cuz you're kinda cute. Well done, you've opened and showed some active disinterest, maybe. BUT, to actually CLOSE the target, you're gonna have to leave behind the mindset that being rude works, because to build real comfort and a real connection, to actually be able to seduce, you have to both escalate, and also connect with her emotionally by being interested in what she has to say and qualifying her for those things about herself that she wants to be valued for. Silly canned negs are not gonna help you here, unfortunately. And being rude certainly won't. Finally, a neg is NOT an insult. A neg is a subtle kind of compliment with a subtext that makes her question herself. For example "hey those shoes are cool, they're like something my little sister would love." It's a compliment, but (1) it's coming from a position of higher value and (2) it makes her think "wait, is he saying I have the fashion of a 10 year old? Doesn't he think I'm mature enough for him? Why not?" etc.

Author:	TrueFlame [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:31 pm ]
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Quote: I love women. I think they're great. I would never act like I don't care about them. I act like I don't care about LOSING that PARTICULAR ONE. As for being rude, that sounds to me like a classic rAFC line. As an AFC, you think you have no power over women and you don't really know how to interact with them properly. Then as a rAFC you learn some material and think you know what a good neg is, and you go around getting reactions from women and you think - hey I get it, I do have power over these bitches, look they're staring wide eyed at me like "who IS this guy" and laughing and shit, fuck yeah! However the fact most likely is that they're reacting positively to your newfound confidence, not your silly opinion opener or your borderline insulting neg. In fact, they're probably giving you some leeway because you are being fun, for the moment, and they'll cut you some slack cuz you're kinda cute. Well done, you've opened and showed some active disinterest, maybe. BUT, to actually CLOSE the target, you're gonna have to leave behind the mindset that being rude works, because to build real comfort and a real connection, to actually be able to seduce, you have to both escalate, and also connect with her emotionally by being interested in what she has to say and qualifying her for those things about herself that she wants to be valued for. Silly canned negs are not gonna help you here, unfortunately. And being rude certainly won't. Finally, a neg is NOT an insult. A neg is a subtle kind of compliment with a subtext that makes her question herself. For example "hey those shoes are cool, they're like something my little sister would love." It's a compliment, but (1) it's coming from a position of higher value and (2) it makes her think "wait, is he saying I have the fashion of a 10 year old? Doesn't he think I'm mature enough for him? Why not?" etc. I agree with you about loving women. I don't insult them deliberately. That said, there are several occassions I can remember where I unintentionally insulted HV women who later I became friendly with. I remember comparing one girl to a horse (no, I don't know why either) and she became quite eager despite my total AFC behaviour thereafter. I also remember a black girl in an internet cafe who was genuinely pissing me off with her gobbiness who I called a "mouthy cow". She turned on me and told me she was gonna "sort me out". I said "promises, promises". I have rarely seen a girl so turned on as she was at that moment. I suspect there is a certain type of women who do respond to what is actually beyond a neg and into straight-out abusive territory. Indeed, this must be the case because some women seek out and stay with violent abusive partners. They seek validation from you after you have established yourself as higher status. Moreover, they know you exist from that point and often try and communicate with you themselves, something which is very difficult to induce. You project strength with this approach and for some women that is the priority, not being charmed or made feel special or whatever. I can see why the PUA gurus don't go into this area. It will not work with many women and needs good skills to be developed with women who do. Also, it is kind of twisted and most guys probably just don't want to go there (me included). That said, one of the things about PUA is that it tells the truth about the dating game rather than the myth. I think it is a good idea to have an awareness about this area.

Author:	Jav [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:04 pm ]
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I'll put a girl into place if needed to. But certainly won't do it out of nowhere.

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Author:	Spike007 [ Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:34 pm ]
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I don't know...I had a problem with a girl I was flirting with 2 days ago. When I was ignoring her she always kept txting me. But last day I negged her infront of her friend and she didn't take it at all. She blocked me on msn but she says that she is not mad...

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