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| Author: | psychosylocibin [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How to shift my perception by women? what am I doing wrong? |
I lurk on these boards and post once in a while, but don't practice PUA per se (I don't go out with the goal of approaching 10 strangers). Anyways, I feel as if I am viewed by women (who know me well) as a very platonic non-sexual object. To this day I do not know why I am perceived this way, all I know is that it has to change. I say I do not know why because I don't do the things that PUA would consider conducive to putting oneself in the friends zone (for example, I have my own life, I respect women but i don't put them on a pedestal) Here is some examples of why I think I am perceived this way. -Girls that are friends have told me they could never date me -I have never been pursued or shown interest by one of these friends -They always talk to me about their relationship issues -for some reason I think it is highly abnormal to have a ton of female friends and not have one of them show sexual interest you in the course of your relationship. I think it indicates that said guy is unattractive and undesirable. Basically I am confused as to what I doing wrong in the first place. I am not frustrated that I cannot move past friendship with any of these female friends (I don't have interest in any of them). It just scares me that I am perceived in a completely platonic way by all of them. I think how this group of female friends perceives me is a good indication about how other females perceive me. I know the problem I pose has a very simple answer, but I wanted to pose it anyways and see what you guys think. |
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| Author: | tekryder [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:57 pm ] |
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those girls have already established you, so your gonna have to pass on them.. Do you have any male friends who do cool stuff? like clubbing etc.. Id take taht up, boost up your lifestyle to look like a fun guy who takes adventures. Get into some cool hobby like motorcycles or cars or something. Change your image and look busy so they will think "dam this guy does all this?" . |
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| Author: | DonPua [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:10 am ] |
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You probably are too nice with them. When you meet a girl you should behave more alpha male. I think the problem is the conversations you have with women. When you meet someone you like, use more kino and make your sexual intentions clear. If you go in like a very nice guy that is fun to talk with but don't show any sexual intentions they put you in the friend category. You should read the mystery method so you can read yourself what you are doing wrong. I wouldn't suggest you to start gaming your female friends as they have already put you in the friend's zone. |
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| Author: | psychosylocibin [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:43 am ] |
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Tekryder and DonPua, I understand where you two are getting at (alpha male = win, females gravitate towards a male with an attractive lifestyle, show you are a sexual being). This is where I was confused as to why I am like this since I feel like I do these things you guys mentioned (not to the PUA extreme but do them nonetheless). I am very ambitious about my career and about my hobbies (music..I play guitar in two separate bands and play shows regularly). I do consider myself a nice guy, but I do not think that is a bad thing - I stand up for myself and do not let myself be used. I am not going to get into motorcycles or cars since I really don't care for them too much (plus the musician aspect counts as a "cool" hobby anyways). I Also value my own time and keep busy. I DID forget to mention that I was in a relationship for 4 years and most of these female friends I met I made while I was in the relationship (so I could not make any advances, maybe this is why I was put in the friend zone, whenever I needed another female opinion on something about our relationship I would go to these girls, and because I brought up my issues with them, they would bring up theirs). But does talking about relationship problems automatically = friend zone? I feel like it shouldn't, as long as you are not displaying neediness or they sense you are pursuing them. |
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