I'm going out tonight cos its my mates b-day, just wondering what methods you use to open up sets with multiple people as well as how to transition between them.
Also a simple kino escalation routine would be ace
cheers guys x
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| Author: | rageamachine [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Good ways to open a set in a club |
I'm going out tonight cos its my mates b-day, just wondering what methods you use to open up sets with multiple people as well as how to transition between them. Also a simple kino escalation routine would be ace cheers guys x
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| Author: | Johnny B. [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:14 pm ] |
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This post im about to publish here is going to start a war ( Opinion openers are for gays, be natural, dont do canned openers, be direct... blaa blaa blaa ) Well anyway, this is how i see it usually when dealing with big sets ( especially if you are a new to this ): 1.Why opinion opener when dealing with bigger sets? - The reason why i use opinion openers in big sets is that when you dont open more than one girl, there is a risk that the others feel outcasted and try to save her because A) they are jealouse B) they get bored or C) they think that you are making her feel uncomfortable - If you open the whole set, you have more where to choose from for example if your target has a BF or something or she aint showing any interest - So by useing something that involves all of them speaking reduces the chance of her friends trying to save her - This opener has lower risk to get rejected but on the other hand the profit may not be so instant or big. ( Opinion opener= Low risk, low profit; Direct opener= Higher risk, higher profit; Apocalypse opener= Huge risk, Huge profit ) - Girls tend to have their shield on when they go to clubs because they know that it is a place where people come to look for sex/ love / company. This is the reason why they have stronger shield than during the day where getting picked up is much more rare. So over all, opinion opener is very under the radar type of opener which doesent immitate her away and gives you an opportunity to speak with her. - It gives you the chance to talk to the girl ( especially if you are an AFC and not used to socialize with women ) and when so, it reduces your fear of approaching because the image of your last approach was good ( you managed to even exchange words with her ) and not getting rejected ( she turned you down straight ) [ Johnny B ] |
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| Author: | rageamachine [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:18 pm ] |
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thanks for the advice bro. You got any examples of opinion openers that are successful for you? x |
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| Author: | Johnny B. [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:23 pm ] |
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Quote: thanks for the advice bro. You got any examples of opinion openers that are successful for you? x
Jealouse Girlfriend opener was a sure thing in my book when i was learning this stuff... It sometimes even gets them to fight about it which is pretty funny to watch.But remember that dont over use that opener. With this i mean that when they answer, throw in few negs or play C&F concerning their answers and change the subject. When you change the subject, you can for example ask about " whats the story behind that_____ ( some item she is wearing, like jewellery etc. ). This makes her do the speaking and you can just control the frame if you manage to pull it of. [ Johnny B ] |
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