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Author:  Skelfir [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Bunch of small newbie questions
Hey folks, im new in here and have been reading some posts the past days and read the game like a year ago, started with magic bullets but quit for some reason.
I'm a fairly good looking guy, im in sports alot and lift weights so my body is solid, i dress really well and my hair is stylish. My face isnt ugly but isnt a ten.
I was always the shy kid being really skinny so that is still stuck in my mind, this shyness and i get uncomfortable with girls i like or am trying to date.
But the past 2 years i've been working this out, most of the time this is when i'm out, usually drunk so it isnt really well played. I still have alot of problems in my game.
It would be good if you could just post old posts with similiar problems, so here they comes:
I'm at the dancefloor, we are kissing, dance, kiss more... but usually the chick get bored and leaves in the end so i have a big problem closing this up and getting her home.
I'm at the dancefloor, approach a girl, we start to dance, she get's bored and i leave. (this part might be solved with better dancing, tips? :))
I approach a girl who's sitting at a party or a bar, we start talking but i never get it further unless she's uglier then me or drunker then me.
I meet a girl, get her number. What the heck do i text her later on ? If we just danced and kissed?
I meet a girl, turns into a MSN/Facebook type conversation situations (this girl i like alot solid ten), se has shown som IOI's always says hi to me specially when she she's me with friends and is always happy to talk. But the talks are mainly on msn and i get uncomfortable in RL situations, but i really want to work this out and start hangin out with her i just dont know how i can make theese situations because just asking: "hey im going to try the new mac donalds wanna tag along" would be so unexspected that she would probably say no ( i just meet her at school and i avoid starting conversations with here because i get so nervous) or when im out clubbing and then we have nothing to talk about.

Bit of wall of text, sorry for that ;)
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:50 pm ]
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As with your post, your game sounds unstructured and uncertain.

Start with the basics. How are you approaching? How's your body language? Are you using a false time constraint? Are you negging the target (or breaking rapport)? Are you getting her to qualify? Are you using kino? Are you escalating? Are you testing her compliance? Are you building comfort?

Get started on the basics and work your way through sticking points one at a time every day you go out from now. You should start to see improvements immediately if you have at least a basic structure in the back of your mind, and then you can start to figure out what areas need improving and the best way to achieve your goals.
Author:  Skelfir [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:55 pm ]
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thanks mate will read more and try to watch some videos.
Author:  Skelfir [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:59 pm ]
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As with your post, your game sounds unstructured and uncertain.

Start with the basics. How are you approaching? How's your body language? Are you using a false time constraint? Are you negging the target (or breaking rapport)? Are you getting her to qualify? Are you using kino? Are you escalating? Are you testing her compliance? Are you building comfort?

Get started on the basics and work your way through sticking points one at a time every day you go out from now. You should start to see improvements immediately if you have at least a basic structure in the back of your mind, and then you can start to figure out what areas need improving and the best way to achieve your goals.
But to answer theese questions my approach is most often pretty good, i never approach from behind and such, and my body language is probly ok but doesnt show that i want her i guess. will work on the rest.
Author:  MHFenix [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:15 am ]
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thanks mate will read more and try to watch some videos.
All well and good, but it's the putting it all into action that defines the amount you will really learn.

A man approached me the other day and asked 'How do you get to queen's garden from here?" (that's our local park) Being the cocky sh*t that I am, I looked him dead in the eye, straight faced and replied "Practice."

I then burst out laughing and gave him the directions, but you get the point I'm making here?
Author:  Kaiine [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:57 am ]
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Agh, always kiss close. The problem is you aren't getting the number and leaving at the high point of the game. If you don't it will fizzle and she will become disinterested.

The problem definitely seems to be uncertainty and lack of inner game. Don't even bother texting a girl if ALL you did was dance and kiss. Without rapport the number won't be solid and you'll just end up throwing the number out when the conversation goes awry. Just work on the confidence, read up on some game like the Mystery Method, and work on it. It sounds like you really just have a break in the chain that needs to be fixed to get the bike pedaling. Good luck
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