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Author:  Tryst. [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  To Ask or Not to Ask?

Frankly I think this topic is better suited to a different section but seeing as my leporous post count bars me from starting a topic out side of Newbie Questions I can't. The advice in here is undoubtedly top notch but I fear this post will be lost in the quagmire of Newbie Questions...please prove me wrong.

Basically tonight I was at the pub with some old friends, one of my friends was a girl I had a huge AFC crush on in year 10-11. She lives around the corner from me and we used to get the bus home everyday and I began to like her. After year 11 she moved to a college and we saw less and less of each other but we stayed in contact. As we are both on Gap year we went to the pub tonight with several other friends.

Over the last few months I have been improving my game considerably, I behave with confidence and self-assurance and can build attraction with most girls I meet pretty easily, however as she is an old friend and about an HB 8.5/9 I am trying hard to get her.

So tonight we were at the pub, the night before out two friensdhip groups had made plans to meet at a big club in my Local town but I'd gone in before she arrived, she never made it in but we texted during the night. So tonight we talked about that in parts and many other things, at around 11pm our other friends left leaving just me and her. We both had about half a pint left and we just settled in to talk.

We talked about my Stalker, a really sweet girl I ran some game on in a bar a few weeks ago and has stalked me ever since. She's lovely but not my type. She bought me drinks on the night but we're not having a thing. Anyway, we talked a bit about her and my ex and eventually we were on the subject of relationships.

Now ever since she sat down next to me there had been some light Kino, for instance our knees were touching and similarly we always held eye contact. As we were talking I slipped in some clumsy DHV about guestlists at clubs and ex's etc.

We started to talk about how men and women use eachother. She said 'Using a guy for a drink is far less harmful than guys who get bored with Girls and drop them after a month or so of seeing each other.' We debated a little about what is worse, the feeling of being used for guys or the feeling of being used up for girls. I content that it is equally damaging for the male and female psyche as both SPAM assault how men and women view themselves.

Anyway, she started to ask me what the most romantic thing I'd ever done was, and I answered something lame about how I've never done anything that romantic because I've never known anyone well enough...I said that to me romance was about doing something to prove you knew someone better than anyone. Its all true but I felt so corney saying it.

Anyway, this got us talking and I explained to her that I was a Romantic at heart, I told her I was always looking for perfection and every new girl I met I thought was the one but in the end I seem to get dissapointed when a girl reveals themselves as flawed. I told her about my crush in year 10 but then pulled away with a 'but that was a long time ago'. Again, this is all true. I mentioned a girl who I have this thing for, Martha, and she immediately told me 'I don't know what you see in her. She's really not that fit.'

So we kept talking and she said how guys she really liked never liked her back and they would get bored of her etc etc. I told her some stuff about making yourself the prize and that without questions there can be no attraction. She seemed to lap it up. By this time we were nearly at her door because I walked her home. She seemed to be looking at me in a new light and she said 'You need to tell me where I'm going wrong. Ask your guy friends why I can't get a boyfriend!' We'd both been talking how we'd love to be in relationships.

Anyway, as I was saying something about how power in any relationship relies on being confident she suddelny seemed to snap out of it. She turns and said 'None of this is making any sense to me! So I'm going in side.' (We'd been talking for a few minutes outside her door) I then asked 'Do you really want a boyfriend?' And she replied 'Yeah, so much' without breaking eye contact.

After that we hugged and I started to leave, she yelled something and I just put a thumbs up without turning back around. And she laughed and walked inside.

Anyway, I know that is a long post. But you all need a bit of background! Anyway, what I want to know is that although me and this girl have never had a physical relationship before do you think this could turn into the boyfriend-girlfriend situation we both want?

What are the signals being displayed here? And how would be the best way of making her a potential girlfriend?

Thanks for your time, Tryst. :)

Author:  Jayallday [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:14 am ]
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tryst,

PUA aside you need to make a move, the pint thing aside was a great opportunity but dont dread on it, call her and say you want to do it again, this time get some beer courage and kiss the damn girl.

no pua needed she is into you.
make a move---what bad could happen? You get friends zoned..oh wait you are allready there---she kisses back? o shit score---and next time when u see her act calm cool and collected to let her know that it wasnt a drunk mistake

make your move quickly before shes with a loser, swallow your pride, dive deep inside =] YOU can do it gl mate

Author:  Cornflake [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:40 am ]
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Everything seems to be going pretty decently for you. You both seem to have very deep conversations and talk about relationships and other "temperature buying" things. Just be careful that she isn't too comfortable being with you, you don't want to be in the friendzone, try to be a little unpredictable. Just because she was mentioning how she wanted to be in a relationship doesn't mean neccisarily that she wants to be in one with you. Try to do some heavier kino, but also do some push pull, from my prespective reading what you wrote you have a lot of rapport, so try to have more tension. Hope this helps :)

Author:  Tryst. [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:19 pm ]
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Thanks for your replies guys! :)

I think I might as well make my move but its so hard to do when I've been just friends with this girl for so long.

Do you have any suggestions of situations where it won't feel awkward?

Author:  bigimot [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:09 pm ]
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Make yourself believe it's not akward, and it wouldn't be.

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