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Author:  phantomnote [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  creating a road map

Now I've read both Strauss, Mystery, Adam Lyons and also alot of NLP which I like to use (not so much Jeffries though, I mean he has some useful stuff but most if it seems somewhat creepy to me :P). I'm also reading a book on body language I plan to imply so that I get better at calibrating, and also to mention some state that a person might be in or whatever, so that I can lead the discussion towards mind psychology and run some NLP drills - with the intention of indirectly attracting the "target" towards me.
I decided I'd take a somewhat natural approach at this, meaning very little canned lines. They just won't work convingcinly and I'd feel bad doing them. I'm very much into Adams approach, even though Strauss and Mystery obviously also has some things to offer.

So my general tactic would be to use Adams theories combined with NLP.
I figure I kind of need a road map. I have used alot of this just to try it out for the fun of it, and it has worked but I've never gone very far because I haven't really been able to distuingish between "steps" that much, or lay a strategy that would make me comfortable in knowing what I wanted to do.
So what I need is something that makes be able to distuingish between steps and what to do. Now this wouldn't include any explanation of theory or therms, just basically a basic well, road map I guess.

Could anyone help a newbie out in this?

Author:  tomlove [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:42 pm ]
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you have read neil strauss. he began using canned material but from every pua out there and Master PUAs at that.

now by reading different material you are basically doing the same, neil was so succesfull by taking little bits of what he learnt and put them together

EXAMPLE

Opener- Your the good one and your the bad one

(ok that seems like canned material but you cant feel bad for that... its like going round and saying hi my names songwriter... but that would be AFC so instead a 2 set you say your good your bad (target good cus girls wanna be bad :twisted: )

Now here a pua following say mystery would show higher value by negging dhvs etc. etc. untill he feels hes got interest so can move to A3.. showing the girl interest blah.


but if you wanna be "yourself" just after you've opened talk about stuff thats actually happend. or be nice and say you girls having fun? just talk seriously. ok you wanna take material from these guys like not buying them a drink etc. but if you dont wanna use canned material literally just be yourself... just dont do the things a pua would call you an afc for. :)

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:58 pm ]
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If you want a road map and you like Adam Lyons, then why not use his? It's pretty simple:

0. Build social proof (the extra step that MM doesn't consider) e.g. walk into the club with 5 women with you, open the HB6-7s and mixed sets first before you approach the HB9-10s, etc.
1. Open
2. Build rapport
3. Break rapport (e.g neg)
4. Generate attraction
5. Escalate (kino)

Author:  tomlove [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:53 pm ]
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id have to agree with blondguy. use someone that roadmap untill you are calibrated enough to know waht works for you. i am going to write step guide/road map for puas in britain on the forum soon because there are some simple mistakes that british guys do when sarging. Americanisms.

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