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Author:  vat_fagina [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  2 Questions! An Opener Needed And Advice

Hi guys

2 questions for you all

1. First on to the advice...I number closed a girl who works with me..She flirts with me whenver she can. So today, I asked her when she's taking me out for dinner to test her response..She replied positively by saying 'I'd go out with u if you take me to dinner'.
This girl is filing for divorce..A marriage of 4 years and she has a kid too.
She told me not to mess her around which I joked about.
Now I wanna bang her. I don't want a relationship with her.
Should I be straight up and tell her the truth?? I don't want things to turn out bitter if I trick her into thinking there's something serious...


2. There's a girl I saw today sitting at a computer..She sells insurance. She's been clocking me all day but no smile! Just glancing over and we keep catching eachother's gaze...
I need a cool opener for her...Any suggestions??

Author:  Johnny B. [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 Questions! An Opener Needed And Advice

Quote:
Hi guys

2 questions for you all

1. First on to the advice...I number closed a girl who works with me..She flirts with me whenver she can. So today, I asked her when she's taking me out for dinner to test her response..She replied positively by saying 'I'd go out with u if you take me to dinner'.
This girl is filing for divorce..A marriage of 4 years and she has a kid too.
She told me not to mess her around which I joked about.
Now I wanna bang her. I don't want a relationship with her.
Should I be straight up and tell her the truth?? I don't want things to turn out bitter if I trick her into thinking there's something serious...

2. There's a girl I saw today sitting at a computer..She sells insurance. She's been clocking me all day but no smile! Just glancing over and we keep catching eachother's gaze...
I need a cool opener for her...Any suggestions??

Hello

Ok, here is MY point of view:
1. She works with you and she said "not to mess around with her "
2. She has a kid and she is filing for divorce

Conclusion:
Like some guys here in the forum says: " dont shit where you eat ". If she WORKS with you and also told you not to MESS UP WITH HER i would make things clear IF i decided to bang her. If you dont ( clear the rules ), there is always the risk that the SPAM where you work with her turns up pretty ugly. So if I was in your shoes and i wanted to bang her i would take her to the dinner, build up comfort while eating and trying to gain trust. After the dinner i would take her to my place and start building up sexual tension between us and some kino escalation. But before jumping into the bed with her i would whisper into her ear something that clears the rules like " you know, i want to be a decent guy and honest with you before we go any further. Im not looking for a relationship. " While telling this ( when the sexual tension is on the roof between you two ) i would be fingering her ( her pants still on ) or making radical kino. If you dont clear up the rules you not wanting a relationship with her than things might get pretty ugly.

If i was you, i wouldnt bang her because in my opinion there would be a higher risk than profit.

[ Johnny B ]

Author:  NaturalE [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:46 pm ]
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I used a smile related opener recently and it went really well:

go up to her and say "do you have teeth?"
"oh really? its just i havent seen you smile yet and am gettign concerned"

what happened with me is the biggest natural smile came back

"ahh there they are!"

if you do happen to use it let me know the result as its real new so its all about the field test :)

Author:  baloo [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:57 pm ]
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NaturalE that is a great opener my man, you could eve use that within the conversation somewhere if she's being stand offish

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 Questions! An Opener Needed And Advice

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Quote:
Hi guys

2 questions for you all

1. First on to the advice...I number closed a girl who works with me..She flirts with me whenver she can. So today, I asked her when she's taking me out for dinner to test her response..She replied positively by saying 'I'd go out with u if you take me to dinner'.
This girl is filing for divorce..A marriage of 4 years and she has a kid too.
She told me not to mess her around which I joked about.
Now I wanna bang her. I don't want a relationship with her.
Should I be straight up and tell her the truth?? I don't want things to turn out bitter if I trick her into thinking there's something serious...

2. There's a girl I saw today sitting at a computer..She sells insurance. She's been clocking me all day but no smile! Just glancing over and we keep catching eachother's gaze...
I need a cool opener for her...Any suggestions??

Hello

Ok, here is MY point of view:
1. She works with you and she said "not to mess around with her "
2. She has a kid and she is filing for divorce

Conclusion:
Like some guys here in the forum says: " dont shit where you eat ". If she WORKS with you and also told you not to MESS UP WITH HER i would make things clear IF i decided to bang her. If you dont ( clear the rules ), there is always the risk that the SPAM where you work with her turns up pretty ugly. So if I was in your shoes and i wanted to bang her i would take her to the dinner, build up comfort while eating and trying to gain trust. After the dinner i would take her to my place and start building up sexual tension between us and some kino escalation. But before jumping into the bed with her i would whisper into her ear something that clears the rules like " you know, i want to be a decent guy and honest with you before we go any further. Im not looking for a relationship. " While telling this ( when the sexual tension is on the roof between you two ) i would be fingering her ( her pants still on ) or making radical kino. If you dont clear up the rules you not wanting a relationship with her than things might get pretty ugly.

If i was you, i wouldnt bang her because in my opinion there would be a higher risk than profit.

[ Johnny B ]
Take her out to dinner? Are you fucking crazy?

First of all I think office romance is a bad idea because if you end up breaking up things can get very awkward and also a lot of companies have policies about that and you could get in trouble/fired. If you *really* want to have her as a fuck buddy and no more, then first of all, take her on a *good* day 2 (i.e. not a sit down date) something fun like a hip bar with some friends (better w/ mixed company), bowling, shoot some pool, etc. lots of opportunity to kino, DHV and show you are popular and have high value friends. Then kino escalate and all the rest of it.

When you've built comfort at a quiet table alone together, and you know the kiss is going to happen, you can use Adam Lyon's MLTR trick, which is as follows: "so, before we continue, I just want to tell you, I'm not like most of these guys at this bar (pointing out guys hooking up with girls) - I'm different (Adam says "dangerous" but I'm not sure you want to mention "danger" when you're in comfort building). Now, the way I see it, there are two types of girls. There's the type who wants to go out and have a fun night, is out for a good time, and when we spend time with each other, it's great, but when we're not together we don't get into each others' business about what we're up to. The second type is the girl who thinks they can change a guy like me and make me settle down and commit. Now, if you're the second type, then I'm gonna have to ask you to step away now, but if you're the first type, then let's have some fun!"

The theory behind this is that you are associating the first type with fun and happy times, and also people are more likely to want to do nothing than do something, so she is less likely to step away (do something) than to stay with you (do nothing). If you do this at the right time (i.e. there is definitely attraction and comfort) then she will most likely agree to having a casual relationship from the very beginning, and then you can then K-close and escalate accordingly from there.

Author:  vat_fagina [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:52 pm ]
Post subject: 

Its game on with the work colleague...

She text me today asking when I'm gonna take her for a drink...

I replied back saying, I've got a cold, we'll go for a shag, i mean drink, when I'm better.

She said she'll take me up on the offer of the shag, drink.

I'll tell her I'm not looking for anytihng serious too

Author:  Johnny B. [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 Questions! An Opener Needed And Advice

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Hi guys

2 questions for you all

1. First on to the advice...I number closed a girl who works with me..She flirts with me whenver she can. So today, I asked her when she's taking me out for dinner to test her response..She replied positively by saying 'I'd go out with u if you take me to dinner'.
This girl is filing for divorce..A marriage of 4 years and she has a kid too.
She told me not to mess her around which I joked about.
Now I wanna bang her. I don't want a relationship with her.
Should I be straight up and tell her the truth?? I don't want things to turn out bitter if I trick her into thinking there's something serious...

2. There's a girl I saw today sitting at a computer..She sells insurance. She's been clocking me all day but no smile! Just glancing over and we keep catching eachother's gaze...
I need a cool opener for her...Any suggestions??

Hello

Ok, here is MY point of view:
1. She works with you and she said "not to mess around with her "
2. She has a kid and she is filing for divorce

Conclusion:
Like some guys here in the forum says: " dont shit where you eat ". If she WORKS with you and also told you not to MESS UP WITH HER i would make things clear IF i decided to bang her. If you dont ( clear the rules ), there is always the risk that the SPAM where you work with her turns up pretty ugly. So if I was in your shoes and i wanted to bang her i would take her to the dinner, build up comfort while eating and trying to gain trust. After the dinner i would take her to my place and start building up sexual tension between us and some kino escalation. But before jumping into the bed with her i would whisper into her ear something that clears the rules like " you know, i want to be a decent guy and honest with you before we go any further. Im not looking for a relationship. " While telling this ( when the sexual tension is on the roof between you two ) i would be fingering her ( her pants still on ) or making radical kino. If you dont clear up the rules you not wanting a relationship with her than things might get pretty ugly.

If i was you, i wouldnt bang her because in my opinion there would be a higher risk than profit.

[ Johnny B ]
Take her out to dinner? Are you fucking crazy?

First of all I think office romance is a bad idea because if you end up breaking up things can get very awkward and also a lot of companies have policies about that and you could get in trouble/fired. If you *really* want to have her as a fuck buddy and no more, then first of all, take her on a *good* day 2 (i.e. not a sit down date) something fun like a hip bar with some friends (better w/ mixed company), bowling, shoot some pool, etc. lots of opportunity to kino, DHV and show you are popular and have high value friends. Then kino escalate and all the rest of it.

When you've built comfort at a quiet table alone together, and you know the kiss is going to happen, you can use Adam Lyon's MLTR trick, which is as follows: "so, before we continue, I just want to tell you, I'm not like most of these guys at this bar (pointing out guys hooking up with girls) - I'm different (Adam says "dangerous" but I'm not sure you want to mention "danger" when you're in comfort building). Now, the way I see it, there are two types of girls. There's the type who wants to go out and have a fun night, is out for a good time, and when we spend time with each other, it's great, but when we're not together we don't get into each others' business about what we're up to. The second type is the girl who thinks they can change a guy like me and make me settle down and commit. Now, if you're the second type, then I'm gonna have to ask you to step away now, but if you're the first type, then let's have some fun!"

The theory behind this is that you are associating the first type with fun and happy times, and also people are more likely to want to do nothing than do something, so she is less likely to step away (do something) than to stay with you (do nothing). If you do this at the right time (i.e. there is definitely attraction and comfort) then she will most likely agree to having a casual relationship from the very beginning, and then you can then K-close and escalate accordingly from there.
The only reason i said dinner ( i didnt say " romantic " ) was because the person who started this topic said that the girl agreed to go out if he ask her for dinner. Now, i know that the " romance " ( you said it, not me ) dinners aint good for day two but if she practically asked him for dinner by suggesting it than i dont see an obstacle why not if it aint problem for him. If the dinner was something they both agreed to and makes her feel comfortable and safe than why not? There is no universal law which says that two grown up CO- workers cant have sophisticated lunch ( i didnt say romantic! ) and if you do you will end up living alone.
But yes, i do agree with you that " romantic " ( you said it, not me ) dates for day two may not be such a good idea if they dont know each others very well. Than i would also prefer something more casual where she feels comfortable and safe, where is people around us, like asking her for a coffee etc. But like i said, this is just my point of a view and i dont want to start a " who has the biggest shrimp "- festival.

I also said that " dont shit where you eat " which means that i would leave her alone.

[ Johnny B ]

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