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Author:  Kieran Black [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Body language
Hello,

I noticed their isn't alot of information on this topic in PUA forum so I thought I would contribute some of my knowledge on feminem body language.

For instance... Did you know?

1. That when a women is idly playing with a ring on her finger or runing her fingers up and down the bottom of a wine glass or around the tip of a bottle there is a 95% chance she is thinking about sex whilst doing this. The subconcious stimulation of a falic symbol is accurately indicative of what is one 'her' mind.

note: I have embarassed many women on this. It is true.

2. That a woman will point her crossed legs in the direction she is thinking. For instance if you are on a date and her crossed legs are pointing towards the door, then she is not enjoying her date and wants to leave. If her legs are pointing towards you then this is an IOI, she is momentarily interested in you.

If her shoulders are back when she is doing this and her breasts are poking out she is very interested, it indicates she is very comfortable with you and trying to draw your attention to her mamories. In primative terms she wants to offer herself to you and in modern terms 'Go for the kill'

3. That if a woman is smiling at you during conversation but her lips are tight and her eyes are unwrinkled (uncontracted) , then this is a 'false smile' and she probably thinks your a jerk.


Please let me know if this is a topic of interest and I will be happy to post more on the subject ;)


Source: Private research and "Alan and Barbara Pease: The definitive book of body language."
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:18 am ]
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cool story, bro
Author:  Jaybot [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:13 am ]
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Yeah not too sure about tis info book or no book, the crossed leg thing overlooks the fact her legs are crossed. And as with most "statistics" percentages don't make things any more true ("90% of communication is... yaddah yaddah bullshit") .

Also books on body language have so many faults I am not even going to get starteed, do we honestly believe there is a set of gestures and movements that every culture, class, race, age group uses? Sure there are general ideas but I dislike the idea of body language rules etc and I think committing something to text makes it concrete which is a rather 2d way of looking at things.


Meh body language books are overrated a slither of perception will tell you more than any book.
Author:  Kieran Black [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:50 am ]
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Yeah not too sure about tis info book or no book, the crossed leg thing overlooks the fact her legs are crossed. And as with most "statistics" percentages don't make things any more true ("90% of communication is... yaddah yaddah bullshit") .

Also books on body language have so many faults I am not even going to get starteed, do we honestly believe there is a set of gestures and movements that every culture, class, race, age group uses? Sure there are general ideas but I dislike the idea of body language rules etc and I think committing something to text makes it concrete which is a rather 2d way of looking at things.


Meh body language books are overrated a slither of perception will tell you more than any book.
Sounds like the advice of a loser to me.

Why don't you 'get started' on why body language is irrelevant in the dating game JayBot. I'm curious as to why you believe yourself to be an authority on the subject. Have you ever actually read book on body lanuage? If you have you have you would be aware that cultural differences taken into consideration. There are many basic universal gestures human's use which are evident in many animals other than humans namely our primate cousins.

A smile is a smile in every culture, a woman is sill a woman in every culture. That was possibly the most worthless contribution to this forum I have been witness to since my initiation of this on-line community.

Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do - Benjamin Franklin.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:15 am ]
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wow, am I really seeing some new guy stomp in here posting info thats already all over the forum, and then criticize one of the more experienced members for pointing out realistic issues with the subject?


what has the world come to?
Author:  Kieran Black [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:42 am ]
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wow, am I really seeing some new guy stomp in here posting info thats already all over the forum, and then criticize one of the more experienced members for pointing out realistic issues with the subject?


what has the world come to?
Your perception of 'experience' as you put it is solely based upon the online 'reputation' which is in direct correlation with the time of initiation.

Just because someone has been using this site longer and has racked up more points doesn't mean they are more qaulified to speak on a subject than those with less points and it certainly doesn't mean that they are 'exempt' from criticism. You may have a higher repuation than me but you have failed to prove that you are a better PUA than I am.

So when addressing me I suggest you get off of this imaginary throne you place yourself on because I certainly don't perceive either of you to be an authority or a governing entity on this subject. Start making valuable contributions to this forum and maybe that will change.

Or your certainly welcome to come down to Melbourne and we'll see who the better PUA is, or better yet I'm heading overseas next year I'll come to you. We can even pull out a ruler and get measuring (I'll win) Until then don't even 'attempt' to discredit me. punk ;)
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:12 am ]
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wtf?

for 1 I KNOW Jaybot is one of the more experienced members of this forum.

and 2, you still have yet to address the actual concerns he made in the post, concerning that some of these specific body language things you pointed out in the OP are not universal.

So instead of showing some universal respect to everyone until you know what's what, you're raging around like a moron, further ensuring that few, if any, will treat you with respect.

Hell, I never even said I was a better PUA than you, though based on your attitude, I'm the better calibrated one, yet you still seemed to make it a point to run your mouth like some cock-sure piece of white trash.

"When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there."

"When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them."
Author:  Kieran Black [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:07 am ]
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wtf?

for 1 I KNOW Jaybot is one of the more experienced members of this forum.

and 2, you still have yet to address the actual concerns he made in the post, concerning that some of these specific body language things you pointed out in the OP are not universal.

So instead of showing some universal respect to everyone until you know what's what, you're raging around like a moron, further ensuring that few, if any, will treat you with respect.

Hell, I never even said I was a better PUA than you, though based on your attitude, I'm the better calibrated one, yet you still seemed to make it a point to run your mouth like some cock-sure piece of white trash.

"When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there."

"When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them."
LOL I'm sorry man for stepping into 'your lair', guess I must be swinging my club a bit to wide for you, sorry if that's upset you. I didn't realise that you automatically assumed ownership of everything I posted.

FYI The concerns Jaybot made weren't worth addressing because he didn't provide anything solid to address to me it's just a whole bunch of "mmm... errrr... nahh... i don't know... mehh.. seems a little...." IOW, objecting for the sake of objecting.

White trash? Are you pulling the race card on me now. I dare you start going down this racial road man, i dare you.

I'm going to summarize this for you before you make a real dick of yourself Krystall night. If you don't like the material I'm posting in this forum. No-one is making you read it. If you wan't to object or disagree to something then that is fine... So long as you reply with adequate reason and information to justify your rebuttle.

I am not wasting any more time explaining this to you, you and 'your friend' have already managed to disrupt the focus of this forum. Unless you have something to say about body language I'm not interested.

Keep your petty self delusions of grandeur to yourself okay.
Author:  RVAIS [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:32 am ]
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This is the best book for PUAs on body language!!!!
Buy this book!


http://bodylanguageproject.com/
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:38 am ]
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LOL I'm sorry man for stepping into 'your lair', guess I must be swinging my club a bit to wide for you, sorry if that's upset you. I didn't realise that you automatically assumed ownership of everything I posted.
I'm pretty sure I didn't say this was my 'lair' simply that your attitude seemed wholly unjustified. There is no reason for you to assume hostile intent in the simple act of contradiction.
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FYI The concerns Jaybot made weren't worth addressing because he didn't provide anything solid to address to me it's just a whole bunch of "mmm... errrr... nahh... i don't know... mehh.. seems a little...." IOW, objecting for the sake of objecting.
While l agree his presentation of his point was far from convincing, the point he made that specific body language is not universal throughout cultures or even social class. Especially in the case of number 2.
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White trash? Are you pulling the race card on me now. I dare you start going down this racial road man, i dare you.
Yes, I am pulling the race card on someone I know little about. And what exactly do you mean "I dare you"?
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I'm going to summarize this for you before you make a real dick of yourself Krystall night. If you don't like the material I'm posting in this forum. No-one is making you read it. If you wan't to object or disagree to something then that is fine... So long as you reply with adequate reason and information to justify your rebuttle.
My point in this thread was to point out that 1. this content is not original. and then 2. to comment on your lack of respect towards the others who peruse the forum. And if content here is not liked, similar to how I dislike your attitude towards other members, I feel obliged to point out the issues contained therein, so as to dissuade future readers for following a similar course of action.
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I am not wasting any more time explaining this to you, you and 'your friend' have already managed to disrupt the focus of this forum. Unless you have something to say about body language I'm not interested.

Keep your petty self delusions of grandeur to yourself okay.
Yes, he disrupted the focus of the forum by getting you to verbally attack him, clearly this is all his fault.


I'd advise that you make an attempt to keep your ego in check when dealing with people here that may not agree with everything you say. Thats just social etiquette.
Author:  Kieran Black [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:59 am ]
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Lol how could I 'verbally' attack him over the internet dude? do you think that i went to the effort of 'SPAM-ing' him just so I could tell him I didn't appreciated his half assed response. Mate, obviously this site isn't working for you because judging by your responses you really really need to get laid.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest, you have revealed your true colours to me and It's easy to see you for what you are, an ignorant poser. I'm not going to waste any more energy on you because I can put my efforts to more worthwhile persuits than trying to educate an idiot.

If you have anything more to say to me use the PM, I don't wan't this post to be filled with anymore of your crap, people arent interested.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:41 am ]
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Lol how could I 'verbally' attack him over the internet dude? do you think that i went to the effort of 'SPAM-ing' him just so I could tell him I didn't appreciated his half assed response.
You're arguing semantics.
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Mate, obviously this site isn't working for you because judging by your responses you really really need to get laid.
And you're overwhelming maturity strikes again in the form of you attacking what you perceive the entirety of value on this site.
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I'm not even going to bother with the rest, you have revealed your true colours to me and It's easy to see you for what you are, an ignorant poser.
Last time I checked the 'ignorant poser' isn't the guy who explains his points with no personal attacks. You're actually playing the part far better than I am.
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I'm not going to waste any more energy on you because I can put my efforts to more worthwhile persuits than trying to educate an idiot.
See, the reason I'm here is because I believe educating idiots to be a worthwhile pursuit.
Author:  Tigra [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:30 am ]
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"When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there."

"When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them."
Satanist :twisted:
Author:  Tigra [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:31 am ]
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Lol how could I 'verbally' attack him over the internet dude? do you think that i went to the effort of 'SPAM-ing' him just so I could tell him I didn't appreciated his half assed response. Mate, obviously this site isn't working for you because judging by your responses you really really need to get laid.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest, you have revealed your true colours to me and It's easy to see you for what you are, an ignorant poser. I'm not going to waste any more energy on you because I can put my efforts to more worthwhile persuits than trying to educate an idiot.

If you have anything more to say to me use the PM, I don't wan't this post to be filled with anymore of your crap, people arent interested.
Hit up a sarge in Sydney mate.
Author:  Chief [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:37 am ]
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You're all assholes.

If I see you guys starting up another flame war again I'll have to bring down the banhammer on all of you. This forum isn't for dick-measuring contests.
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