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Author:  marius1815 [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:21 pm ]
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How do I become a bottom-feeder, getting large quantities of low qualitity girls?

I was reading this book about socially skilled. And there was this case of Bottom-feeding Bud. He had been unpopular in high school getting no dates, and had no job or home. But he found it very easy to get older, fat, ugly women as dates in bars. He would wake up disgusted.

Now I'm not a pervert, and I don't want to be bottom feeding bud.

But I would like to have a large quanitity of sexual partners. Quantity is its own quality. So really I have no limits of ugliness.

Kind of how Hal's luck improved in shallow hal, when he got permanent beer goggles.

Does anyone have any tips on how to pursue this strategy?

Author:  ToAki [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:47 pm ]
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according to afc adam there guys who have the ability to sexually escalate meaning initiate sex kino and all that and abundance meaning having a lot of women in your life contributes to pre selection and all that but lucks confidence.
but to be a pua all u need to these 2 qualities is confidence and u can be a natural that gets most girls

Author:  marius1815 [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:47 pm ]
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But is there any PUA strategy on how to target the LEAST attractive girl in a set?
I'm only interested in numbers.

Author:  corviguy [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:21 am ]
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well, i would guess the less attractive a girl is, less expectations she has, so you dont have to bring your A game. this of course may not be true in all cases, but here's the thing.

hot girls can get laid pretty much any time they want, less attractive girls have less chance of doing that and ugly girls .... u get where im going.
now, if you give them the feeling that they're pretty or anything they'll automatically try to use the situation.
u give 'em an IOI and see what happens. hot girls dont care about your IOIs... mostly, uglier women are looking for it!

thats just a thought, cause i dont do such things. and i totally disagree with the quote 'quantity is quality in itself'.
i think quality can be defined a 1000 ways and every man can decide whether they like a woman or not.
but if you deliberately look for ugly women, who dont actually attract you, how can that be quality?!
its true tho that usually, women that are less attractive are better sexual partners, because they somehow try to compensate their looks. but in my opinion u have find someone at least a little attractive in order to have sex with her.
what do you think?

Author:  Brah [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:34 am ]
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But is there any PUA strategy on how to target the LEAST attractive girl in a set?
I'm only interested in numbers.
Hang out at bars really late. Like 2-5am. Hit on lots of girls. Be relatively direct. You'll eventually find one every night that is desperate/tired/drunk enough to go home with you.

Author:  kasabi [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:15 am ]
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Is your goal to have quantity or is your goal to fuck the ugliest girl in the bar? Physical attractiveness in its own has very little to do with "ease of game".

If your goal is to have quantity, then you go out and game them all. It's as simple as that. There are no special tricks or magic spells. You have a certain amount of time and you want as much pussy as possible. So you don't sit in one area and play some drawn out game with any girl. Instead, you keep it moving. You open the first girl and get her vagina wet as soon as possible. You'll get nervous laughs, you'll get tested, and you might get some RUDE replies. (Usually when they're expecting a boyfriend to come by later or some prissy girlfriends who'll call her a slut is hovering around)

You stick with that direct frame and go through a couple interchanges to make sure that the first one is a dud before you move on to the next. Then you just move on to the next one, then the next one . . . DO NOT skip hot chicks. You give this an honest effort and I'll bet that the range of hot chicks vs. ugly chicks you pull will be about even.

Author:  marius1815 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:32 am ]
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Is your goal to have quantity or is your goal to fuck the ugliest girl in the bar? Physical attractiveness in its own has very little to do with "ease of game".

If your goal is to have quantity, then you go out and game them all. It's as simple as that. There are no special tricks or magic spells. You have a certain amount of time and you want as much pussy as possible. So you don't sit in one area and play some drawn out game with any girl. Instead, you keep it moving. You open the first girl and get her vagina wet as soon as possible. You'll get nervous laughs, you'll get tested, and you might get some RUDE replies. (Usually when they're expecting a boyfriend to come by later or some prissy girlfriends who'll call her a slut is hovering around)

You stick with that direct frame and go through a couple interchanges to make sure that the first one is a dud before you move on to the next. Then you just move on to the next one, then the next one . . . DO NOT skip hot chicks. You give this an honest effort and I'll bet that the range of hot chicks vs. ugly chicks you pull will be about even.
Well since my goal is raw numbers, time on hot chicks is basically a waste. I don't know how it can be said that there is no correlation between attractiveness and ease of game. Much of the Mystery method and its spinoffs are specifically centered around going after the MOST attractive girl, so with the bottom of the barrel, the rules of the game change entirely. I agree there is a difference between objective and subjective attractiveness. Girl next door looks may be just as hard to crack as supermodels. But if you go low enough the laws of gravity change.

Author:  KristallNachte [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:47 am ]
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the rules don't really change at all...


but seriously...wtf? why would you want lots of unattractive girls instead of lots of attractive girls?

Author:  marius1815 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:52 am ]
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Well for example much of PUA is centered around the "neg" which is specifically designed for high value girls. It seems like for my objectives I basically have to discover the game from scratch, much has to be thrown out the window. That doesn't mean PUA is totally useless. But it has to be radically reinvented for my goals. And thats what I could use your help on.

I don't prefer unattractive girls, by definition I'm more attracted to attractive girls. But quantity has a quality all its own.

Author:  tekryder [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:59 am ]
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if you can pop a boner off an ugly chick, more power to you bro

Author:  marius1815 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:05 am ]
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Well all the pick-up artist magick in the world can't convince a hot girl that she doesn't have other options.

Author:  kasabi [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:24 am ]
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Well since my goal is raw numbers, time on hot chicks is basically a waste. I don't know how it can be said that there is no correlation between attractiveness and ease of game. Much of the Mystery method and its spinoffs are specifically centered around going after the MOST attractive girl, so with the bottom of the barrel, the rules of the game change entirely. I agree there is a difference between objective and subjective attractiveness. Girl next door looks may be just as hard to crack as supermodels. But if you go low enough the laws of gravity change.
Not sure how you've formed these generalizations but my experience tells me that your theory is way off. You're only using a hot-ugly scale for which there is of course a correlation(which is why I wrote, "it matters little") but there are way too many other factors consider. And as I wrote, if you're playing the quantity game, you have no time to consider all the factors.

I say this from experience: If you skip the hot girls, you're missing out on the QUANTITY game. I've met plenty hot girls fishing around for dick. Just because they can fuck anybody at the bar doesn't mean that they do. They need dick just as much or as little as ugly Betty and they go with the guy that turns them on. I would say that the biggest barrier in regards to hot chicks in the quantity game is that they're usually chatting with other guys. Well, even if an ugly girl is chatting with another guy, you'd skip them and go to one that is more accessible . . . if in fact you want quantity and maximize your time.

When you try this out for yourself, you'll be surprised that ugly girls will often shit test you A LOT more than pretty girls. What they are thinking is, "What? Just because I'm less attractive, I'll just spread my legs for you? Get the fuck outta here . . ." Whereas pretty girls are thinking, "Yeah, I know you want to fuck me. So give me a good reason why I should." Well . . . getting her vagina wet is a good start.

Author:  tekryder [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:49 am ]
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is it to gain experience? id say do craigslist hook up lol.

Author:  mellowmarshall [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:57 am ]
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Well all the pick-up artist magick in the world can't convince a hot girl that she doesn't have other options.
100% true. thats why you have to convince her the other options are inferior.

Author:  kasabi [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 am ]
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Well all the pick-up artist magick in the world can't convince a hot girl that she doesn't have other options.
Women don't have options. They stand around all night long and wait.

We have options . . .

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