the problem is how you ended the first instance, when you didnt lay her. you should have gotten her a drink, or told her somthing sweet, or cuddled, or called her. SOMETHING, ANYTHING to make sure that the next time you pulled off her panties she wouldnt get that LMR, which is jsut caused by the girl wondering "is he using me just for sex/fingering?" which is OBVIOUSLY what she thought, and what stopped her the second time around. you need to be sweet after the first time, that way she feels a connection and thinks its "special" or some shit like that. lol

preperation is the best way around LMR.

although if she gets LMR the first time around, a freeze out is best. but seeing as she didnt get it the first time.. the top paragraph is your answer.

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well lets say i went for her panties the first time, and she said no, what would a freeze out look like?

College experience,

as of last saturday, i encountered some LMR (the first lmr, since ive gotten a girls panties off once total...)

basically i fingered her with her panties on (pulled to the side) 2 saturdays ago, but i didnt lay her because i didn't have condoms and she left because i needed sleep for a water polo tournament the next day.

however saturday i got her alone with me clothes almost off and everything, and i was taking off her panties after some passionate kissing, but she said no. i was sort of shocked but i didn't know what to do. i just went back to making out passionately. But she decided to leave after a couple of minutes after that.

what should i have done? what's going through a girls mind in this instance?

background story, i know this girl for about 2 weeks, she acts like a clinger everytime i call her up, we've made out infront of people. we have good conversation but its probably sexual most of the time. and she thinks im a player. she most likely infered that i was a player because im friends with a lot of older guys on the water polo team that brag but poke fun about me. "hey have you gotten checked yet? (stds)" im only a semi-player, hell i haven't even fucked a girl in college yet, but we had an orgy in our dorm room about a month ago and a bunch of people have heard about that already >.>

College experience,

as of last saturday, i encountered some LMR (the first lmr, since ive gotten a girls panties off once total...)

basically i fingered her with her panties on (pulled to the side) 2 saturdays ago, but i didnt lay her because i didn't have condoms and she left because i needed sleep for a water polo tournament the next day.

however saturday i got her alone with me clothes almost off and everything, and i was taking off her panties after some passionate kissing, but she said no. i was sort of shocked but i didn't know what to do. i just went back to making out passionately. But she decided to leave after a couple of minutes after that.

what should i have done? what's going through a girls mind in this instance?

background story, i know this girl for about 2 weeks, she acts like a clinger everytime i call her up, we've made out infront of people. we have good conversation but its probably sexual most of the time. and she thinks im a player. she most likely infered that i was a player because im friends with a lot of older guys on the water polo team that brag but poke fun about me. "hey have you gotten checked yet? (stds)" im only a semi-player, hell i haven't even fucked a girl in college yet, but we had an orgy in our dorm room about a month ago and a bunch of people have heard about that already >.>

If a girl says no, stop right there and then. Some may disagree with me, but in the US at least and I think its the same in some other countries, if a girl says no and you do not stop it is consider rape. I doubt anyone here wants to be charged with rape as in most cases it is a criminal charge with prison time along with having to register as a sex offender in the US at least.

well the PUA rule involving rape is both her mouth and her body should be saying 'no'. otherwise she still wants it.

you can't be so afraid of laws like that. its practically part of what girls like HAVE to do the first time is say 'no' at some point.

out of curiosity, how long did it take for you to go from starting to seduce her to actually fingering her?
I usually don't just go fingering straight away, do a lil' more kissing, kiss/smell her neck etc, massage her a bit, and so on.
What i've learnt is when you take your time to get her turned on more it'll work better. Don't assume girls are just like guys and get turned on like in a 20 second timeframe. Usually it takes longer.