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Author:  -Achilles [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Friend zone or a really patient girl??
ok so I've been gaming a german girl I live with for quite some time. at first I was reluctant of doing anything because, again, when live in the same house.. anyway, right now I'm in but I'm kind of afraid she already LJBF'd me.. I mean, yesterday we stayed up to 9 AM talking for like 3 hours about basically everything.. I did my job, kino, teasing, etc, but I feel It was too late already.

she said herself she was a very touchy girl so I'm not sure I can trust that IOI.. at first I'm sure we hit off.. In fact yesterday she offered me her number, out of nowhere... I think if I try to close anything can happen, whether she was dying inside or just thinking "what a nice guy"

now, onto the reason of this thread:

Is there any routine, game, question, ANYTHING that could tell me, though her response, were is she standing? and please don't say "close the deal!".. very risky, due to us living under the same roof.

thanks every1,
-Teague
Author:  Workaholic [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Friend zone or a really patient girl??
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ok so I've been gaming a german girl I live with for quite some time. at first I was reluctant of doing anything because, again, when live in the same house.. anyway, right now I'm in but I'm kind of afraid she already LJBF'd me.. I mean, yesterday we stayed up to 9 AM talking for like 3 hours about basically everything.. I did my job, kino, teasing, etc, but I feel It was too late already.

she said herself she was a very touchy girl so I'm not sure I can trust that IOI.. at first I'm sure we hit off.. In fact yesterday she offered me her number, out of nowhere... I think if I try to close anything can happen, whether she was dying inside or just thinking "what a nice guy"

now, onto the reason of this thread:

Is there any routine, game, question, ANYTHING that could tell me, though her response, were is she standing? and please don't say "close the deal!".. very risky, due to us living under the same roof.

thanks every1,
-Teague
I would recommend not going any further. You clearly do not feel confident about the outcome and you should listen to your instincts.

" and please don't say "close the deal!".. very risky, due to us living under the same roof."
Author:  fratss [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:42 am ]
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It's a difficult situation for you, and you need to find out if it's worth closing her. She obviously isn't the right girl to close, if you're not really into her. You're getting along well and if you're really into her I'd suggest you keep on escalating kino on her and spice things up a little smoothly. As long as you haven't kissed yet, there's nothing wrong with it right?

Until the moment you kissed you can find out if she's really sexually attracted to you by giving her more physical kino like holding hands & squeezing, touching her face, legs, shoulders.. Also you can throw in some verbal sexual spikes like change the subject to kissing, tell her she's attracted to you by taking her heartrate, asking her how much she likes to kiss you.

Keep observing for sexual indicators of interest! It's the only way to find out if she's really into you without actually making the move.
SIOI's are:
- Her pupils will dilate
- She's looking at your mouth
- She increases holding eye-contact
- She's comfortable with you touching her
- She's leaning into you
- She's accepting your non interesting fluffing
- She's touching, stroking her neck, hair while talking to you.

Until you figured her out, figure out yourself if it's worth it!! Are you really connecting with her? Are you ready to deal with the complications it brings to date your roommate? Anyway, trying to read her and validating that will improve your reading skills bigtime! ;)
Author:  Visionxxxxxx [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:56 am ]
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tell her she's attracted to you by taking her heartrate, asking her how much she likes to kiss you.
good advice....turn the convo sexual. i normally 'test the water' by accusing them of pursuing me. You can tell by the way they flirt back if they are interested. if she is not, her response will be boring/non sexual and she will usually change the subject and there will be that slight 'awkwardness'. (which is fine as you now have your answer...do it more than once though)

Exmaple of things I say... girl i was gaming had just got a new job at this local bar...i tell her on the phone...'hey im going to club xxx in town tonight and was thinking of coming down to your bar to say hi as its on the way, im just worried that youre going to get all nervous and jittery when you see me, i wouldnt want you to get fired on your first day!'...could be worded better but you get the idea.

or when she sends a text msg out of the blue late at night....'awe thats so cute, youre all drunk and thinking of me.'.

make sure you convey playfulness else you'll come across as an arrogant dick.

as for whether you should make a move in the first place? if you want to kiss her, and are prepared to risk complications due to living together....then i would test the sexual vibe as above...and then close.
Author:  Jav [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:47 am ]
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It's a difficult situation for you, and you need to find out if it's worth closing her. She obviously isn't the right girl to close, if you're not really into her. You're getting along well and if you're really into her I'd suggest you keep on escalating kino on her and spice things up a little smoothly. As long as you haven't kissed yet, there's nothing wrong with it right?

Until the moment you kissed you can find out if she's really sexually attracted to you by giving her more physical kino like holding hands & squeezing, touching her face, legs, shoulders.. Also you can throw in some verbal sexual spikes like change the subject to kissing, tell her she's attracted to you by taking her heartrate, asking her how much she likes to kiss you.

Keep observing for sexual indicators of interest! It's the only way to find out if she's really into you without actually making the move.
SIOI's are:
- Her pupils will dilate
- She's looking at your mouth
- She increases holding eye-contact
- She's comfortable with you touching her
- She's leaning into you
- She's accepting your non interesting fluffing
- She's touching, stroking her neck, hair while talking to you.

Until you figured her out, figure out yourself if it's worth it!! Are you really connecting with her? Are you ready to deal with the complications it brings to date your roommate? Anyway, trying to read her and validating that will improve your reading skills bigtime! ;)

Lol.

I love the cute list of IOIS


made my day.


personally I wouldn't fuck around with roommates.
Author:  -Achilles [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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hello everyone and thx for the responses.. I´m sorry I didn´t post earlier, there wasn´t a computer around haha..

onto the topic.. I didn´t have the opportunity to read the "dont do it" posts, and glad of it.. It´s been 6 days since I dont sleep in my own bed haha

I made the move, for the sake of the girl and the practice, working pretty well so far.. including the freeze outs, in which I don´t have that much experience..

let this be a learning experience for some guys out there, here u can get a whole deal of advices, but u have to analize them, dont just let others make the desitions for you.. lots of posters just follow the tips like the Commandments.

thx again everyone,
-Achilles (Teague)
Author:  Visionxxxxxx [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:18 pm ]
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I cant make out from your last post as to whether you kissed her or not? and when you say not slept in your bed...do you mean you cant get to sleep? or that youve been sleeping in HER bed for 6 days? i hope its the latter!
Author:  -Achilles [ Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:54 pm ]
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I cant make out from your last post as to whether you kissed her or not? and when you say not slept in your bed...do you mean you cant get to sleep? or that youve been sleeping in HER bed for 6 days? i hope its the latter!
hahahah I'll be clearer this time..

I full closed her, and I've been sleeping in her bed for several days.. that is before her roomate came back from home..

so basically every opinion given were... not wrong, but my insticts worked a bit better here haha

-Achilles
Author:  [Vegas] [ Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:30 pm ]
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so basically every opinion given were... not wrong, but my insticts worked a bit better here haha
I'm a fan of always going with what your first instinct is. You will always know your situation better than anyone else, so all anyone here can do try to analyze it for you and give advice based on what works for them.

Props to following your instinct and succeeding. 8)
Author:  -Achilles [ Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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I'm a fan of always going with what your first instinct is. You will always know your situation better than anyone else, so all anyone here can do try to analyze it for you and give advice based on what works for them.

Props to following your instinct and succeeding. 8)
thx man, and that's true.. no matter how well one explains it, there's always some little detail, that changes the whole thing.. some the advices given here are that.. tips, not Commandments

and if it's everything about the girl in there, the post is so long no one reads it haha
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