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Author:  Dawson [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  How sarge in nightclubs?
Dear friends, do not know if this is the right place for me to post this, no more crucify me, I'm new here on the forum.

and I wish someone would give tips on how to make my game at night, since the opener and attraction and transition of conversation, because that part I am too weak.

Wanted to start with a solid game and go adding techniques as I am evolving.

If anyone here loves Brazil, answer me this topic because I'm from Brazil, and who knows you helping me I help you one day, came here and etch away the nights that are great ...

I would be very grateful ..

Dawson.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:33 am ]
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um...pretty much all game theories are based on nightclub game....so really reading any of the dedicated sections will have a strong focus on night game aside from where expressed differently.



Where in Brasil? I've spent some time in Curitiba, and I'm visiting again in 2011 for a friends graduation from med school.
Author:  Jaybot [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:33 pm ]
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most of my club game is outlined in the free download in my signature.

But yar most game is based in the nightclub
Author:  Enigma104 [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:13 am ]
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Almost all books revolve around night game. but it is not the only thing you need to worry about I would just start reading all the material you can.

Magic Bullets
Mystery Method
Art of Seduction

some of which can be purchased on my website below
Author:  Moai [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:01 am ]
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All theories are based mostly in bars but night clubs are completely different to the theories written down, mostly for the simple reason that communication is impossible.

I'm having this same problem, applying wot I learned in theory for night clubs. The music would be so load, that you would litteraly have a two set seperated just by the volume of the venue.

How do you overcome that situation? Do you just communicate through body language?
Author:  KristallNachte [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:18 am ]
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All theories are based mostly in bars but night clubs are completely different to the theories written down
false. the theories are actually based more solidly on night clubs than bars.

and the theories work just as well in both scenarios.

Better presentation skills fix most of the "impossible to communicate" nonsense.
Author:  Moai [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:02 am ]
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I know that 90% of communication is body language, but how would u go about opening in a night club without being able to use openers?

I had this problem yest. Tried opening a 2 set and I ended up only talking to the target :? I knew wot was gonna happen nxt and the obstacle ended up pulling her away because I couldn't drag her into the convo coz she couldn't be bothered to struggle to hear me.

I know peacocking in night clubs gets u big bonus points for convo starters but wot if u dont want to peacock?
Author:  KristallNachte [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:45 am ]
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then step your game up haha

try relocating the group?

stick to the quieter area of the club
Author:  Moai [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:08 am ]
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I'm working on the whole self improvement thing. I try to go in with a higher energy and smiling, but it just seems to dissipate after a few seconds.

The problem is opening a set in a nightclub. You walk around them, try to start a convo, and to push you away they keep wasying "What!?" as if they never hear you, which is partly true.

Ok lets roleplay. Say there was a three set standing near a table or bar ina nightclub. Say HB8,8,9. Mystery point it out in MM that in a nightclub, its like your target is isolated completely due to the music drowning out the obstacles voices.

How would you go about gaming them? Chat with teh obstacles and then move around the table trying to have convo's with all of them?

I'm sry I'm asking so much but I'm trying to improve my game in Nightclubs.
Author:  Jaybot [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:58 am ]
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I never buy into that music too loud bullshit, you can order a drink in a club right? That in itself requires communication, be it verbal or using hand gestures, so it is possible to communicate in a club.

Next up most of the time when you get a what?? type response it is due to bad first impression and them trying to bust your balls a bit.

Whenever a table is involved in a club and loud music you are set. I walk over and jsut sit down like I know them say hi, then talk with them for all of about 10 seconds before asking the target a question (quietly) they then look confused you say "I can't hear you I'm coming over there" and move the group so you can sit next to the target, more quiet talking gets her to lean in and hte loud music drowns out the friends who by this time have got bored of trying to listen in and are chatting amongst themselves. Then a little kino a lot of eye contact and she is mine.
Author:  Moai [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:10 am ]
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Will def try that out tonite Jaybot. Tnx a lot for the tips.
Author:  DirtyDreams [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:07 pm ]
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May I introduce you, the Gunwitch Method: http://www.gunwitch.com/

That game is about doing, not about talking.
Author:  Moai [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:15 pm ]
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:P now thats wot I'm talkin about!!!

Cheers dude

Unforunately he condescends the MM which I'm kind of following. I agree with some of his theories but he, kinda went of with the whole LOSER aspect of the MM which he indicated indirectly.
Author:  BadolzoN [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:53 pm ]
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You can overcome the sound of the nightclub by SPEAKING UP and making sure every member of her set is being entertained.

Really, the target should be talked to the LEAST because the more you talk to her the less value that demonstrates from you.

Telegraphing interest should only be done in A3.
Author:  Dawson [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:26 pm ]
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I'm surprised at how much response to my topic.
Thank all.

the point is that here in Brazil, the Nighclub are quite different than you are accustomed.

For the books I read, you can make the game quite indirect, and even here it rolls too, can do something .. even with the indirect, more so after you isolate,


And here the attraction has to be very fast and so ...

I've been practicing more about the nightclub and see that I'm getting better, more accurate mileage to the attraction .. understand?


Some of openers that I use is this.

Dawson - Girls are you shy?

Hb - Why not?

Dawson - I was there 10 minutes and you did not come talk to me ...

(Then you show where you were)


Well I'm using it .. ae I get to speak one thing and am doing kino ...

The most often lack a transition for me to generate more attraction understand?


If anyone can help in more thing I am grateful ..

Thank you all ..



PS Sorry if I missed something in writing, I still do not speak fluent English
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