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Author:  Overture [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Shittest - did i pass it?
Was at Uni today. At Uni there is this HB9, that has a boyfriend, that im

not trying to get into bed, but im practicing my game on her just to

improve my skills. (i did try to get her to bed though before i realized

she had a bf, and i almost managed it).

Today after class i said: Come on, me and my buddy are walking to *insert

place here* and youre gonna come with us because you live close by.

We got outside, we were about 6 people walking in the same direction. She

started drifting away because i was talking with my buddy and she was

talking to some other guys. Then i poked her with my umbrella and said

smiling, "where do you think youre going, didnt i tell you you were going

with us? *insert small laughter*".

She was still walking in same direction as the whole group. We talked a

little and she seemed annoyed. Short one word answers and a little moody. I

said to the whole gropu "Youve got to excuse her, its just that time of the

month". People laughed a little.

Then she said: "Its not that, its just that i find you annoying and

irritating. I am my own person, you dont control me and i am the one

deciding where i am going. Instead of telling me what to do, you should

have asked."

Then i started laughing and said: "Well, i just assumed since you live just

by the bus stop, and youre new in town, that you would be interested in

taking the shortest road home." People laughed again.

She said: "You dont know what way i walk home."

I answer: "Well i know that the way im going is the shortest way to YOUR

place. So come on, join us. Or wait - no: Would you LIKE to take the

shortest route home, joining us? (Cocky tone)". People laughed again. No

response, so i just continued talking to my buddy. After a while the road

split, i walked one way, she walked another with some other people. I acted

like i didnt notice at all and went to the buss stop.



Is there any other way i should have acted in this weird position? Or did i

do the right thing? I figure that if me and her were alone, i couldnt have

played the cocky-arrogant-funny attitude because that would have backfired,

and since i WASNT alone i HAD to do it - to keep my cool.

All feedback appreciated.

(excuse the messy setup of this text, but i had to copy paste it into notepad cause internet broke down, and the notepad fucked up the format.)
Author:  Exerio [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:13 pm ]
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Man, you insulted her. That was not a shit test, you just went too far. However, things like this can be fixed. Just ignore it as if it never happened in the future.
Author:  Overture [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:31 pm ]
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Man, you insulted her. That was not a shit test, you just went too far. However, things like this can be fixed. Just ignore it as if it never happened in the future.
Well - some people just get insulted easily like that for no reason at all. If she is that kind of person, it just shows me that she is just used to guys / people jumping through her hoops all the time, she getting her willl all the time and used to people almost worshipping her. Or atleast thats the way she wants things to be. Regulair HB6's and 7's who do that usually dont have any friends at all, and guys who do that are loners. Being the guy who is afraid of insulting her is certainly not going to help at all, and in my opinion i did not go too far, she was the one who took it too seriously.
Author:  YungHoudini [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:25 am ]
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in my opinion i did not go too far, she was the one who took it too seriously.
Although I wasnt there, I would say this is true. You were clearly jokin and doing it with a smile. As you get more experience you will be able to calibrate in field and realize sooner that she was not taking it the way you intended.

But no matter what you need to keep this attitude that it was her loss.
Author:  Fumin [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:06 am ]
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I do alot of this usually end up me being labelled a complete cock to ehr and her friends because it will result in an arguement.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:48 pm ]
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it's not like you insulted her ... by saying this With more people present she felt insulted. You can't neg some girls with other people present becasue they will feel ashamed or insulted . you didn't insult her ... she took it like an insult ....

just pretend like it never happened ... maybe next time you meet her she wil act different .
Author:  Overture [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:47 pm ]
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Hmm.. kinda bad , even tough SHE is the one who took it like an insult. cant blame her though, shes a GIRL. lol

however, are there any bright sides of she taking it as an insult?
Author:  Pascal. [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:05 pm ]
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it was taken as an insult because of the environment it was said in. the fact that it was taken as a joke by the people you were with undermines her, making her feel stupid etc (if this was one on one it would have played out differently)

start afresh but its probs not a great idea to bring up some of the same phrases she used like sarcastically asking her if she wants to take that route home again, even if it is just you 2. leave the memories of that in the past, prehaps apologise for being insensative, prehaps say you were carried away with showing your friends the new beauty of the town...wateva...just move it along and it should be cool :)
Author:  BadolzoN [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:44 pm ]
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You were obviously not in the correct stage to act that way.

She felt offended because, yes, she might of been an asshole and yes there are some girls who aren't worth my time because they get offended EASILY.

But, I don't know, the people she was "walking away" with were obviously outcasts from your group, you should of included them into your sect as well.

It almost felt as if it was all of you vs all of her group, kind of like a clan war.

Instead, it should of been a mutual "haha" moment.

You have failed to impress her, move on.

Although I do like your negs they were witty, but wrongly placed.

NEVER tell a girl "it's your time of the month" especially not in front of people, that's a shotgun neg.

Always calibrate a neg with an ioi, and vice-versa, you did none of that, you were just being an asshole.
Author:  Jav [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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New rule: Women don't have logic conversations with others, mostly.
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:13 am ]
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Obviously, she is attracted to you. You know this, I know this . . . the entire group probably felt some of that energy. However, you failed to CHANNEL her attraction energy for your own benefit. Your goal is to ATTRACT her to you right? I am assuming that your goal isn't to become the class clown of a social setting. Then, what's up with the class clown jokes? I'll tell you right now why you do this. You do this because you are nervous that you will be labeled the "guy who likes her" but she doesn't like you back. What you're doing isn't a strategic neg but rather down right insults so that a couple of "tag-a-longs" can tell the story in the locker room. "Yeah, you really showed her up." - Great . . . but meanwhile, she's sucking another guy's cock and you're yankin' a circle jerk with your AFC buddies.

Little prissy girls get treated like little prissy girls. Imagine that you're her uncle who just came to the school to pick her up for a family fishing trip. As her "caring uncle", what would do if your niece got all bitchy and foul-mouthed.

1. You're going look at her understandingly, with a smile . . . but also somewhat condescendingly. Yeah, you don't like what's coming out of her mouth but as an OLDER, MATURE person, you're not going to bounce playground taunts back her.

2. Then you'll take charge. You'd address the group, "Alright kids, I'll see you guys tomorrow, I'll be escorting my little niece home."

3. If she gets bitchy, you don't insult her back. At least not directly. You take control. Woh, woh, "_____" (Give her a little girly pet name) Just give me 5 seconds. I'm going to treat you to an ice cream and make it alllll better . . ."

4 If she still gets bitchy. "What's the matter? You don't like ice cream? How about a few shots of tequila and a little salsa instead?"

5. Then you ORDER HER around. "Come on" (With a warm caring voice . . .) And just turn your head around like a used car sales man doing the "follow me" routine. She'll follow. If she doesn't, you still stay in control. "You forget? You wanted to me escort you home. Keep you safe . . . "

Then as your walking . . . when it's just you and her, you can whisper in her ear, "Hey, everything OK with you?" (She'll melt . . .)

You want to keep channeling her attraction to you the way YOU see fit and in a way that benefits you.. Simply reacting to her bitchiness with your own "bitchiness" will only serve to escalate this awkwardness and skew her attraction energy towards you into waste. Stand strong . . .
Author:  Overture [ Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:34 am ]
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But, I don't know, the people she was "walking away" with were obviously outcasts from your group, you should of included them into your sect as well.

It almost felt as if it was all of you vs all of her group, kind of like a clan war.

Instead, it should of been a mutual "haha" moment.
Well. We were all walking in the same direction. It was a mutual moment of laughter, except from her.

When the road split, the group just split in two. Id say that it wasnt like "clan wars", more like this uncomfortable energy between me and her.

After the incident i kinda "fixed it though", with a playful "So... How bout them yanks huh?" ofcourse, in another language. Managed to squeze some laugther out of her. But it only made things temporarily better. Tone between me and her is fine now, we are just more distant. I dont really initiate any contact between me and her anymore. Not because of a specific reason, i just havent felt like it.
Author:  Overture [ Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:37 am ]
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You do this because you are nervous that you will be labeled the "guy who likes her" but she doesn't like you back. What you're doing isn't a strategic neg but rather down right insults so that a couple of "tag-a-longs" can tell the story in the locker room. "Yeah, you really showed her up." - Great . . . but meanwhile, she's sucking another guy's cock and you're yankin' a circle jerk with your AFC buddies.
Thats harsh, man. But not true.

I just thought the way i did it was the right way to do it. according to "the book". Ofcourse, i realize now that i just didnt have my game plan right, and have to fix it.
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:42 pm ]
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^Not sure which book you're referring to but consider burning it.

By the way, insecure 16 year olds across the World have no problems playing that game without referring to any "book". It really has nothing to do with "game".
Author:  Overture [ Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:54 pm ]
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^Not sure which book you're referring to but consider burning it.

By the way, insecure 16 year olds across the World have no problems playing that game without referring to any "book". It really has nothing to do with "game".
lol, the book was a metaphor for the correct game. I was in no way insecure, i just thought it was the right way responding to it.

the AFC me would have asked: Are you mad at me?, and that was the last thing i wanted to say, hence the lame comeback..
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