PUA Forum :: Sitting Posture and Carrying a conversation

actully i work for her....

And as far as sitting, can i lean forward? Where else can I out my arms? If I put my hands in front of my face, does that show a negative sign of Body Language? I dont want to sit back and slump so sitting STRIGHT up chest out is best?

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If you have to have your arms anywhere but the armrest, the only other acceptable position I can think of is, while leaning back (you don't have to be laying down, just DON'T lean in, they have to EARN that, it's a reward) elbows on desk, arms up, fingers steapled and spread apart. It shows confidence, but it can border on arrogant.

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My only three questions are....

1. What message is sent when you lean forward?
2. What does fingers steapled and spread appart mean?
3. What are some key signs to watch for when she is sitting talking to me?

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1. Intrest. Too easily granted and you are needy. Make her EARN a lean in.
2. fingers up, tips touching. Like praying, but you spread the fingers out.
3. Hair touching, eye contact, her leaning in to you, using your name a lot, touching you, etc

Author:	DavidM6299 [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:50 am ]
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I am just curious about your posture when sitting down. I do alot of talking to HB's while sitting at my desk and most of the time, the HB's come to some of the open chairs in my office to chat. While I am listening how should my posture be to show my Alpha and confidence? Also, should I shift when talking to HBs? Also, I have a couple of HBs that TALK TALK TALK TALK. We talk for hours sometimes.......I still get to throw in jokes,be funny and neg like a PUA should, but when I dont have anything witty to say I get stuck with "yeah" or "really...?!". What do you guys use as fillers for conversations.....

Author:	Dangerboy [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:00 pm ]
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Sitting is simple, sit up straight and lean back. Keep your body open, so put your arms on armrests or something - dont cross them. Then just keep your head up and you're golden. As for shifting, no. Once you're comfortable, keep that position. Shifting makes you seem nervous. Although it's good to talk to women for long times, you have to keep in mind that you're in your office. You have stuff to do. So instead of using fillers, "Anyway, I have to go do [insert something]" or "I need to get back to work - I want to get out early because I'm [whatever you're doing that night]". The theory behind that is to let women know that you have other things in your life to do other than talking to them, and that they aren't above those things. Important thing to keep in mind is that you don't ALWAYS have to be witty or cocky, those are merely parts of your personality and they don't solely define you... So it's OK to sometimes just say "really?" (plus, that often keeps them talking about whatever it was)

Author:	Overture [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:45 pm ]
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Are you their boss? You sure theyre not just coming in to talk to you so they dont have to work? Just dont completely throw yourself out to them...

Author:	DavidM6299 [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:58 am ]
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actully i work for her.... And as far as sitting, can i lean forward? Where else can I out my arms? If I put my hands in front of my face, does that show a negative sign of Body Language? I dont want to sit back and slump so sitting STRIGHT up chest out is best?

Author:	Overture [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:05 am ]
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Dont lean in. Always lean back, and relax. Act like you dont have a worry in the world. If your sitting in a couch, keep your legs open, hand on top of couch and on on your thigh. If youre sitting in a typical office chair, lean back, put one foot on top of your other and one elbow on top of the table. But still watch out so that youre not too sleezy. Be open, not closed. Make her come to you.

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Author:	strimpboi [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:42 am ]
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Quote: actully i work for her.... And as far as sitting, can i lean forward? Where else can I out my arms? If I put my hands in front of my face, does that show a negative sign of Body Language? I dont want to sit back and slump so sitting STRIGHT up chest out is best? If you have to have your arms anywhere but the armrest, the only other acceptable position I can think of is, while leaning back (you don't have to be laying down, just DON'T lean in, they have to EARN that, it's a reward) elbows on desk, arms up, fingers steapled and spread apart. It shows confidence, but it can border on arrogant.

Author:	DavidM6299 [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:34 am ]
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Quote: Quote: actully i work for her.... And as far as sitting, can i lean forward? Where else can I out my arms? If I put my hands in front of my face, does that show a negative sign of Body Language? I dont want to sit back and slump so sitting STRIGHT up chest out is best? If you have to have your arms anywhere but the armrest, the only other acceptable position I can think of is, while leaning back (you don't have to be laying down, just DON'T lean in, they have to EARN that, it's a reward) elbows on desk, arms up, fingers steapled and spread apart. It shows confidence, but it can border on arrogant. My only three questions are.... 1. What message is sent when you lean forward? 2. What does fingers steapled and spread appart mean? 3. What are some key signs to watch for when she is sitting talking to me?

Author:	DavidM6299 [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:38 am ]
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oh and 4....How often durring the day should I Neg and how often to compliment? Remember, she is older and "mature"

Author:	strimpboi [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:41 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: actully i work for her.... And as far as sitting, can i lean forward? Where else can I out my arms? If I put my hands in front of my face, does that show a negative sign of Body Language? I dont want to sit back and slump so sitting STRIGHT up chest out is best? If you have to have your arms anywhere but the armrest, the only other acceptable position I can think of is, while leaning back (you don't have to be laying down, just DON'T lean in, they have to EARN that, it's a reward) elbows on desk, arms up, fingers steapled and spread apart. It shows confidence, but it can border on arrogant. My only three questions are.... 1. What message is sent when you lean forward? 2. What does fingers steapled and spread appart mean? 3. What are some key signs to watch for when she is sitting talking to me? 1. Intrest. Too easily granted and you are needy. Make her EARN a lean in. 2. fingers up, tips touching. Like praying, but you spread the fingers out. 3. Hair touching, eye contact, her leaning in to you, using your name a lot, touching you, etc

Author:	DavidM6299 [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:53 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: If you have to have your arms anywhere but the armrest, the only other acceptable position I can think of is, while leaning back (you don't have to be laying down, just DON'T lean in, they have to EARN that, it's a reward) elbows on desk, arms up, fingers steapled and spread apart. It shows confidence, but it can border on arrogant. My only three questions are.... 1. What message is sent when you lean forward? 2. What does fingers steapled and spread appart mean? 3. What are some key signs to watch for when she is sitting talking to me? 1. Intrest. Too easily granted and you are needy. Make her EARN a lean in. 2. fingers up, tips touching. Like praying, but you spread the fingers out. 3. Hair touching, eye contact, her leaning in to you, using your name a lot, touching you, etc Ok sounds good. Now if you put your hands in the steple position, wont your face be covered? Is that ok? I al already getting the basics like eye contact, kino and her using my name....anything else more detailed to pay attention to?

Author:	Visionxxxxxx [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:39 pm ]
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pick some of these.... Mystery’s list of IOI’s She reinitiates conversations when you stop talking She giggles She touches you She tries to get rapport and build comfort with you She looks back and glances at you repeatedly ever minute or so She tosses her hair (to see if you will look) If eye contact happens from a distance, she holds it for a second She smiles at you She stands nearby (proximity) She interrupts your conversation from nearby or laughs at something you said While walking by, she turns her body toward you or brushes against you She says something to her friend and they both giggle She asks you for a light or the time or in any way initiates a conversation While you're talking to her group, she is particularly talkative (to get your attention) She asks you for your name She asks you your age (make her guess) g She compliments you She is playful and tries to challenge you She's disagreeing but laughing She's punching your arm but laughing She uses nicknames for you She plays with her hair while talking to you When she is sitting next to you her leg touches yours She repeatedly touches you in any way She asks if you have a girlfriend She mentions your girlfriend without knowing if you actually have one When she has to go to the bathroom, she comes back She holds eye contact for longer periods of time when she speaks with you She avoids mentioning her boyfriend If it comes up that you like something, she mentions that she likes it, too, or needs someone to show her how to do it When she says or does something, she looks at you to see your reaction She looks at you from the side, to hide the fact that she's looking She introduces you to friends She buys you a drink She calls you a player or a heartbreaker On her way out, she reapproaches you to tell you that she is leaving (Get her #) On your way out, she asks you where you are going (Invite her) She returns your calls She invents reasons to be near you, intereact with you, or have isolation with you Passive IOIs Her friends go (to the bathroom or bar or dancing) but she stays She moves to see you and hangs with you for extended periods If you move, she follows you or waits for you She doesn't flinch or pull back if you happen to get too close She doesn't resist when you escalate physically (or she gives token resistence to avoid feeling like a slut)

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