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Author:  Roughneck [ Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Reading a girl OR know what I want?

I am so confused right now... a lot of stuff happened during the last days and tonight was the climax...
I just want to know:

How important is it to read a girl?
Should I read the feeling of a girl?
Is it even possible to read a girl correctly?

OR

Should I just be aware of what I want and how to reach my goal?

...What is more important?

Author:  Marshy [ Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:44 pm ]
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Well being able to read a girl is always a good thing but by you not knowing your goals you will read things differently to what they really are,you need to establish your goals and then dont let you emotions cloud the reading

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:42 pm ]
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you can't read a girl.

what a girl says and thinks is never the same.
you can only be tolerant and caring, just treat her feelings with respect.

always give the same amount as you receive.

girls can lie and you never know....... well sometimes ..... i was engaged and found out my fiance did lie from the first day ..... some people are f*cked up sh*t.

Author:  Exerio [ Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:14 pm ]
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Heya, I believe people tend to over think reading.

There is two ways to "try" and read a girl:

- Vocal:
What does she say? Why does she say it? Does she like me?

- Body-Language:
Does she fix her hair often? Does she lean in? Does she reply to my kino?

Ignore vocal and body-language except three signals she might send out. These are:

- Fixing her her often, and by that I mean often.
- Asking you questions and giving you a lot of compliments.
- If she laughs more then usual.

If you can see those three signals the only thing you can do is progress, try to kino and she will tell you if you have to stop. I have yet to be rejected by a girl who gave me those three signals at once though, so I usually take this as a green light. Be aware though, that signals might lie. These are only indicators.

- Exerio

Author:  SRVisGod24 [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:56 am ]
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Quote:
Heya, I believe people tend to over think reading.

There is two ways to "try" and read a girl:

- Vocal:
What does she say? Why does she say it? Does she like me?

- Body-Language:
Does she fix her hair often? Does she lean in? Does she reply to my kino?

Ignore vocal and body-language except three signals she might send out. These are:

- Fixing her her often, and by that I mean often.
- Asking you questions and giving you a lot of compliments.
- If she laughs more then usual.

If you can see those three signals the only thing you can do is progress, try to kino and she will tell you if you have to stop. I have yet to be rejected by a girl who gave me those three signals at once though, so I usually take this as a green light. Be aware though, that signals might lie. These are only indicators.

- Exerio
I'll totally agree with this one. I like to say some of the stupidest things ever and if the girl starts laughing then I pretty much know I'm in. It's pretty funny actually :lol:

Author:  DJ Fuji [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:16 am ]
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IOIs are bullshit. They're super easy to fake. Instead, focus on COMPLIANCE. Compliance is king. If she plays with her hair but won't isolate with you, that IOI didn't mean shit. And vice versa.

It's easy to get caught up in trying to read the girl's every move. It will also screw you up a LOT because you'll be sitting there trying to count how many times she touches her hair or shows her wrists, etc.

So instead just constantly ask for compliance. The more she complies, the more she likes you. Simple. Easy. Effective.

I've gotten lays where i didn't get a single traditional IOI. It taught me that compliance is king.

Author:  Kalel [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:42 am ]
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Newbies love iois because they are not yet confident in their skills and therefore need constant proof that what they are doing is working. As you advance in your understanding of yourself in relation toward women, you will begin to trust in your abilities and not need to validate them with iois. Eventually you will just assume a girl is into you, regardless of iois, and you will go from there. But you must first crawl before you can run.

Author:  domalo [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:56 pm ]
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what is a compliance test?

Author:  DJ Fuji [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:02 am ]
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A CT is anything where you request compliance from her.

Examples:

asking her to hold your drink
having her move with you to the other side of the bar
her buying you a drink
screening her for qualities you like
grabbing her arm and putting it around your waist
kinoing HER and seeing if she accepts it
most forms of kino escalation
her leaving the bar with you

hope that helps.

Author:  domalo [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:13 am ]
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huh inetersing i been doin ct on my own but not rly knowing that whats it is and whats it for. need to work on my kino escalation as its out of sync i think. been trying to game this hb7 and kind of fuked up on day 2 she prolly thinks im some wierdo now, but u gotta get them wrong before u can get them rite!

Author:  Roughneck [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:20 am ]
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For me CT sound like IOIs... not a huge difference. If she's interested she would... hold your drink, follow you, and so on...

Author:  Exerio [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:45 am ]
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I'm sorry that I have to say this, but we constantly seek IOI's, it is how we are programmed to be. You would never fall in love with someone you haven't seen or heard of, this is the same deal.

Yes, compliance is the next level and an IOI is actually a compliance as well. But if she doesn't give you any signs of interest, then you are basically out anyways.

I gave these three examples because they are easy to look for and usually tells you how the situation is. However, there is a TON of IOI's out there. If she even is talking to you, then that is an IOI.

- Exerio

Author:  PUAHitch [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:59 am ]
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Doesnt Mystery say to look for 3 IOIs before moving to the next stage?

Author:  Kalel [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:47 am ]
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Quote:
Doesnt Mystery say to look for 3 IOIs before moving to the next stage?
Yeah, well he says a lot of things. I wouldn't look for any concrete and absolute formulas to pickup. It's an art not a science.

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