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Author:  BTM3 [ Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:05 am ]
Post subject:  a good begining but than it never works out.
Hi,
I always go out on my own and even though I never approach, women always eyeball me and in general stay in my proximity, you know the deal...
My problem is that once I start the conversation, or she starts it I just never know how to escalate! The thing that happened to me yesterday was that this chick "accidentially" tripped over me and she apollogised several times to me just to start talking to me, and we did. We talked just about everything, where she's from, hobbys etc. The problem was it got boring and she eventually had to go see somebody... :(
This is the stuff that happens all the time and it's getting really frustrating for me. I know I have to escalate I just dont know how to in a club. What I would like to is just make out with her and get her number, and if I get lucky take her home with me. What do you think I should do?
Author:  Fu$$ [ Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:13 am ]
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Guy, its quite simple. You just GO. Increasing the physical contact, from little innocent touch to hardcore sex.

The deal was not that you dont know, its all about your fear. Your emotions are over involved in the kino and the pickup as a whole. You get feel of the rejection and everything else. You know it most than me.

An advice: try to go out using different clothes than the habitual, 'change' your name, your moods, everything else, if you like to drink beer in night clubs, drink whisky for example, be another man, just for a day. Acting so different may take away the link beetwen you and the rejection. It just isnt you!

Try it.

fuss
Author:  BTM3 [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:59 am ]
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OK I getcha, KINO is what I'm missing here. I know as well that fear plays a role but the whole thing is still kinnda unclear to me. I mean as I said before I can get the converstion started but than it always gets boring. I'm gonna go with KINO now and see where it takes me...
The other thing is that chicks I talk to always have friends around her and I dont want to KINO her too much cause it would most likely make her feel uncomfortable in front of her friends and that way I would surely blow the whole thing off... How could I pull this off? I could always start with some light kino and see where it takes me and if I would get her number do you think I should leave immediately and give her a call the next day?

I know its pretty complicated in my head but I really need to clear this, thanx for your help.

Andre
Author:  phantomxrider [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:17 am ]
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its easy. do some light kino while fluffing and qualifying in front of her friends. this gives them the trust needed and comfort needed from both them and her so you can isolate and pull some heavier kino.
Author:  Mr. Amador [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:58 am ]
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Ok....

Number One: Never let the interaction get boring. Do anything reasonable and feasible to avoid boredom.

You need to go somewhere, so instead of talking simple chit chat try to make it funny, intense, and most importantly; be animalistic.

Being animalistic is having an intent behind the interaction, this happened to me today:

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Girl "Hey Wassup, thats a new haircut?"

Me: "No..(with a slight "WTF are you talking about?" tone) (smile) my last haircut was like 2 months ago"

Girl "Hahahaha, you just look different, I haven't seen you in... like forever"

Me: "You missed my cute curls, right? (smile, I smiled almost all the time)"

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Got it? I was going somewhere there, OK... nothing else happened, but it was funny and flirtatious. New example:
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Me: "What you did last weekend, cutie?"

Girl: "I went to a Club"

Me: "(Serious face) Aren't you like 12 years old? (she was 19), (laughter erupts)"

Girl: "Yes, a friend knows a guy that sells these."

Me: "Naughty!!! I like that. Are you a Bad girl? (smiling)"

Girl "(she smiled too) I just like to have fun"

Me "Quick!!! give me ur number!! I need a mischief partner just like you!!"

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Thats the way I talk to women, in the first few minutes of interaction. Its a combination of wits, charm, and plain old having fun. It requires some confidence to talk like that to a girl, but once you start, you'll love it.

Kino and body language plays a major role here. Basically its a skill you develop by going out and talking to women, you'll know when it is working.


Maybe I'll post about this more extensively later.
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