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I sort of came to a realization recently, but I want to put the question to the community here for confirmation. See, from what I've been able to glean from various sources, I've been led to believe in a highly disproportionate number of f-closes as opposed to the other kinds.

So the question I pose to you, the PUA community, is this: what would you say is the ratio between instant f-close (as in meet and in the same night f-close) and number and kiss closes? I feel like the ratio has to be something like 15% of the former, and 85% the latter; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that even if you grouped kiss closes in with f-closes, the ratio would still be heavily in favor of number closes, indicating that most guys get the f and kiss close on the Day 2.

Number close: 65%, Kiss closes: 25%, F-closes: 10% (Just made those numbers up)

Now I'm a college student, so I feel like the general social perspective reinforces the idea of a strong prevalence of same night f-closes, but even here, I gotta believe it can't be THAT huge of a percentage.

Or am I simply still too AFC to pull it off?

CK

Author:	ck_thunder [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:	Another Newbie Question
I sort of came to a realization recently, but I want to put the question to the community here for confirmation. See, from what I've been able to glean from various sources, I've been led to believe in a highly disproportionate number of f-closes as opposed to the other kinds. So the question I pose to you, the PUA community, is this: what would you say is the ratio between instant f-close (as in meet and in the same night f-close) and number and kiss closes? I feel like the ratio has to be something like 15% of the former, and 85% the latter; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that even if you grouped kiss closes in with f-closes, the ratio would still be heavily in favor of number closes, indicating that most guys get the f and kiss close on the Day 2. Now I'm a college student, so I feel like the general social perspective reinforces the idea of a strong prevalence of same night f-closes, but even here, I gotta believe it can't be THAT huge of a percentage. Or am I simply still too AFC to pull it off? Anyways, please be detailed in your answers, and go into why you agree or disagree. I really appreciate it. Thanks, CK

Author:	Heartwork [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Another Newbie Question
Quote: I sort of came to a realization recently, but I want to put the question to the community here for confirmation. See, from what I've been able to glean from various sources, I've been led to believe in a highly disproportionate number of f-closes as opposed to the other kinds. So the question I pose to you, the PUA community, is this: what would you say is the ratio between instant f-close (as in meet and in the same night f-close) and number and kiss closes? I feel like the ratio has to be something like 15% of the former, and 85% the latter; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that even if you grouped kiss closes in with f-closes, the ratio would still be heavily in favor of number closes, indicating that most guys get the f and kiss close on the Day 2. Number close: 65%, Kiss closes: 25%, F-closes: 10% (Just made those numbers up) This is not the question you need to be asking. Who cares how others are doing, you need to keep track of how YOU are doing. Don't try to find an average so you know what to expect, simply expect to blow past any expectations that anyone has. If you start worrying about numbers, your going to get no where. When you ask someone how many girls they have fucked, and they give you a number like 53. They are lying. I could not tell you how many girls I've slept with, I will only be able to give you a ballpark range. I don't keep track of lays cause i'm not trying to meet a quote. The only time I kept track of lays is when I was setting improvement goals for myself. One of my goals was to sleep with more girls than my age, which at the time was 17. With some hard work and dedication, I surpassed that two years ago and am really not keeping track anymore. What you need to ask is "How can I get 5 kiss closes tonight?" "How can I get 10 numbers this week? "How can I get an f-close by the end of the month?" Set goals for yourself and push forward. Every morning remind yourself of your goals and you will start make leaps forward to make each goal happen. Quote: Now I'm a college student, so I feel like the general social perspective reinforces the idea of a strong prevalence of same night f-closes, but even here, I gotta believe it can't be THAT huge of a percentage. Or am I simply still too AFC to pull it off? CK The only thing keeping you from pulling it off is lack of experience doing so, and the belief that there is some set percentage of same night lays in college. You are now better than the average college guy, you have the resources now to shatter any preconceived percentage, whatever it is, you are no longer held back by numbers set by society. Work on consistency. Are you consistently getting phone numbers or kiss closes? If you are not then stop worrying about same night lays, you will get there in time. Hope this helps. The only numbers you need to concern yourself with are yours, not society's. Good luck! Set some goals! Love, Heartwork

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