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Author:  br00k [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Does anyone have trouble getting past openers when tired?

Ok guys,
went out this eve to a great bar for sarging. I am so tired right now I just can be arsed. Tried opening 6 sets the eve, didn't get blown out they jus went no where, just had 1 - 2 minutes of convo. Any tips on how to carry on the conversation? I tried to be a good energy, you think the comes off as fake?

Cheers

Author:  T-Bag [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:57 pm ]
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definitely man,

for me at least attitude and how i'm feeling is huge.

if i feel confident it's easy to approach and easy to keep the conversation going. i usually drink a monster energy drink before i go to keep my mind sharp. i don't drink alcohol or use any other drugs. i would think they may repress the approach anxiety but u lose some wit that is very valuable to work in some improv.

if i'm hella tired, if i can i'll do some meditation somewhere quiet or go to the bathroom relax a bit and humbly ask my creator for assistance. then try again.

Author:  jmm [ Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:43 pm ]
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I am the same. When I am tired, I start fading and struggle to think of witty and sharp things to say. The previous post has good tips. I try not to get hooked on caffeine, so when I am feeling tired, I will usually either rest my eyes and relax or take a power nap before going out. Another thing that works well is talking to some high energy friends to get pumped up. Think about what people do when they want to get adrenaline to prepare for weight lifting -- a lot of that asinine jock stuff actually helps getting me psyched up to go to a party or bar and own it.

Author:  Jaybot [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:41 am ]
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Eventually you learn to get women whilst tired, it is a slightly different style of game. For the time being I would just make sure you are well rested or grab an energy drink en route to the club.

I had major problems with this when I began as I would travel across the country then go out and yar I just kinda adapted and where able slept more.

Author:  hollywoodd [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:33 pm ]
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yeah i know wut u mean
i definately get stuck sometimes when im tired
i´ll open so well and then kind of dissipate
umm always remember that u need to differentiate
find common interests, and be interesting
entertain the friends with funny jokes and stories, but make sure the stories also DHV you
get the heart of the friends and they will approve of you and not cockblock
get some good wingmen to take over for you and keep the friends entertained while you go in for your target
keep her entertained and interested in you, create a sense of belonging with her so she will feel comfortable around you and just be confident and everything will flow the right way

as for keeping things flowing with talking, think of some good stories that you have that will make them laugh and entertained, before you go out and once u start one story, and if its good, everything just gets going and things will come up to talk about easily

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