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Author:  FailSafe [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Too nice, need help!
Hey everyone I'm in desperate need of advice. I've always been known as the nice guy with the great sense of humor and am a master at entering the dreaded Friend Zone. Nice guys do indeed finish last so I need to shed my "Nice guy" persona. I've recently lost 20 lbs and gained a lot of muscle, so I've become more confident with my body but am still lacking in confidence around girls, even though I get compliments and eyed.
So I'm looking for suggestions on things I can do to improve my confidence with girls and techniques I can use to help me approach.

Thanks, FailSafe.
Author:  Jav [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:51 pm ]
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YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S HAPPYNESS.


only the happyness of yourself should count.

Stop doing things that pleases other people. Start doing things that please you.


You are a nice guy because you are afraid of losing people, this is a result from a scarcity mindset.
Author:  Minuteman [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too nice, need help!
Quote:
Hey everyone I'm in desperate need of advice. I've always been known as the nice guy with the great sense of humor and am a master at entering the dreaded Friend Zone. Nice guys do indeed finish last so I need to shed my "Nice guy" persona. I've recently lost 20 lbs and gained a lot of muscle, so I've become more confident with my body but am still lacking in confidence around girls, even though I get compliments and eyed.
So I'm looking for suggestions on things I can do to improve my confidence with girls and techniques I can use to help me approach.

Thanks, FailSafe.
First of all, I wouldn't look at the problem as "nice guys" vs. jerks/assholes/etc. I know plenty of guys who are friendly, dependable, and generous who also hook up with a lot of women or have girlfriends. You don't have to be less nice, you just have do a better job of communicating to women that you're a potential interest rather than a potential friend.

Go kino with the women you're interested in. Seriously, when you're talking with a chick, touch her arm, her knee, her back, etc. (appropriately, obviously). This makes you seem like the dominant male whom she would want to hook up with rather than the submissive male whom she would want to befriend. If she responds well to the basic kino, move closer to her and let your presence be felt in her space. When you do this, you don't want to "hover" or make her uncomfortable, so incorporate false time constraints and repeatedly back off the kino (stop touching her and temporarily move away). This way, she'll know that you aren't a creep and that you could leave at any minute.
Author:  Jaybot [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:36 pm ]
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I'll give you the same advice I gave my bro, anytime you think you are being too nice you are and anytime you are acting slightly AFC imagine someone shouting "FUCK THAT SHIT" inside your head lol


Or if all else fails tailor your game to work around you being a nice guy
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