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Author:  DonPua [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  NLP

Is this stuff dangerous ? I was listening to a NLP tape that is supposed to help you over your approach anxiety. I am very sceptical with hypnosis and these kind of stuff. I don't believe in this. But to be honest, when I was listening to the tape at some moment I had to stop it because something was snapping inside of my head. I felt really something bad and had to stop listening immediately. Is this normal or am I exagerating ? I really have the feeling that this is dangerous territory.

Author:  Lion Cub [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:31 pm ]
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if you had preconceived notions about NLP being BAD before entering into the experience your experience will be colored by those expectations.

Expectation is one of the fundamental laws which dictate human perception. It has been proven time and again that if you are told that a movie is good before watching it, then you are more likely to form a good opinion of it after watching it. And VICE VERSA. Hence the reason why Slumdog Millionaire was celebrated as an awesome film, even though it was a load of shit. Expectation played a part in viewers adsorption of that movie. I believe that expectation played a part in your experience aswell ... which might actually be helpful in diminishing your AA, if you believe in it's potency.

What was this snapping experience like, anyway?

Author:  DonPua [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:41 pm ]
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if you had preconceived notions about NLP being BAD before entering into the experience your experience will be colored by those expectations.

Expectation is one of the fundamental laws which dictate human perception. It has been proven time and again that if you are told that a movie is good before you watch it, then you are more likely to form that opinion after watching it. And VICE VERSA. Hence the reason why Slumdog Millionaire was celebrated as an awesome film, though it was a load of shit, because of the massive praise it received. Expectation played a part in viewers adsorption of that movie. I believe that expectation played a part in the experience you had aswell ... which might actually be helpful in diminishing your AA, if you believe in it's potency.

What was this snapping experience like, anyway?
Maybe you are right. I have always been very sceptical with this hypnotic things. I just wanted to give it a try. The snapping I refered to was just something inside my brain. At the left upper part of my brain I felt something strange deep inside my head. Really strange. Maybe its just because I panicked. The tape told me to relax in a really strange voice. And than it told me to imagine myself in a nice quiet place. And than suddenly out of nowhere there is some other voice that scared the hell out of me. I didn't see that one coming so maybe the thing in my head was more panick than being really hypnotized.

Author:  Lion Cub [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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If you were panicky and apprehensive prior to listening to the CD, then it definitely played a part in your experience of it.

What you should know is that NLP harmlessly communicates to our subconscious and elicits pictures and feelings conducive to sending you in the right direction

What you should do is educate yourself about NLP, things such as embedded commands, etc and unveil its harmlessness.

Author:  Lion Cub [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:07 pm ]
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If you want to deminish your AA, I suggest gently chipping away at it in field. The technique I used was approaching many women as I could and asking for the time. This effectively simulates opening without the fear of rejection. After you've done this task 300 times, you can substitute asking the time for openers, etc.

Author:  DonPua [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:23 pm ]
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Thanks for your information. I was just curious about NLP. I will definitely try to read more about it. Your technique about asking the time to a lot of women indeed seems a good idea. I also heard other people talk about this technique. From all the techniques I have ever heard, this one is actually the one that makes most sense.

Author:  TrueFlame [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:16 am ]
Post subject:  Does this really work?

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If you want to deminish your AA, I suggest gently chipping away at it in field. The technique I used was approaching many women as I could and asking for the time. This effectively simulates opening without the fear of rejection. After you've done this task 300 times, you can substitute asking the time for openers, etc.
Does this really work? Is your AA noticeably different? I remember Mystery saying he had the same fear as an AFC when approaching, so I guessed it was something hard-wired you just had to go through.

I've tried asking directions a few times (a bit stupid having lived in the same city all my life), but I didn't feel as if I was getting anywhere with it. It didn't see to help with AA.

Author:  DonPua [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Does this really work?

I think it should work but I guess asking it a few times is not enough. As I see it AA is kind of a fear of being socially rejected. It doesn't has to be necessarily fear of being rejected by a woman. Just social rejection in general. I guess you saw mystery's explanation about this and that this is hard wired in our brain as a strategy that enables us to survive and blablabla. So the only way to get over this is to do encounter yourself with that fear over and over again untill your brain realizes that approaching isn't something to be scared of. If you approach many times your brain is going to think "I approached 100 people and asked for the time and only 5 of them were bast*rds; the others were quit friendly towards me". This gives you confidence to go up to strange people and start talking to them. Of course this is only the first step in seducing women.

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